Vikings Possibly Carried Native American to Europe

[aherne]

Apparently, they were not. In Greenland, they lived side by side with Eskimo, which they rightfully regarded as savages. When farming became impossible, they died out rather than follow Eskimos in their primitive survival ways.

[aherne]

Wonder if any of the Native American genes made their way to southern Norway also...


Future headline:
Adam Beach finds out he have relatives in Lindesnes in Vest-Agder, Norway:

If Bjork may be an aberrant Uralic (since she has paper white skin), this guy looks downright Mestizo (very swarthy for an European, let alone Scandinavian). I wonder what is the explanation of such individuals?

[Pallantides]

Apparently, they were not. In Greenland, they lived side by side with Eskimo, which they rightfully regarded as savages. When farming became impossible, they died out rather than follow Eskimos in their primitive survival ways.

Maybe not the Inuits, but there are many stories of Vikings taking Sami brides, though the Saami were respected by Norse, one of the most known tales is the story of Harald Fairhair and Snøfrid.

One winter king Harald went to stay in Uppland and arranged a Yule-celebration for himself on the farm Tofte. On Christmas Eve, as the king sat at table, Svaasi came to the doorway. He sent a word to the king to come out to see him, but the king became annoyed over the message, and the same messenger brought the king’s anger back to Svaasi. But Svaasi asked undisturbed that they should bring the message once again, and said that he was the finn (sami), who the king had allowed to raise a lodge on the other side of the hill.
The king went outside and promised to visit him, and went over the hill to his lodge. Some of his men told him to go, while others advised him not to go.

At his arrival, Svaasi’s beautiful daughter, Snöfrid, stood up, and filled a bowl to the rim with mead, but the king grabbed it all: the bowl as well as her hands, and straight away he felt a heat burning like fire in his body, and straight away he wanted to sleep with her that very same night.
But Svaasi said that he would not give his blessing unless they became legally engaged. Then the king engaged Snöfrid and received her and loved her so madly that he did not care about his kingdom, nor how a king is supposed to behave.
They had four sons: Sigurd Rise, Halvdan Hálegg, Gudröd Ljome and Rognvald Rettilbeine.

Then Snöfrid died, but she did not change hue at all. She looked just as healthy as when she was alive. The king constantly watched over her, hoping that she would wake up eventually.
In this way three winters went by. The king mourned Snöfrid’s death, while the entire country worried about the king’s mental health. But finally Torleiv Spake arrived to heal him, and he did so by first addressing the king:
”It is no wonder, my king, that you mourn such a beautiful and noble woman, and that you honour her on down and silk, like she asked you to. But your noble gesture, and her honour, is diminished by letting her lie on the same bedding for too long, and it would be a good idea to move her and change her beddings.”
But as soon as they moved her from the bed, a disgusting smell spread from her body. They hastened to build a fire to burn her – but in the meantime her entire body turned blue, and worms, reptiles, frogs and amphibians and all sorts of nasty serpents came out of her.
In this manner she sank into ashes, but Harald rose again from his insanity and came to his senses. And he rejoiced with his men and they with him, and the kingdom flourished again.
Source: Snorri Sturlason's Heimskringla


Most of these Saami/Norse hybrids were brought up as Norse(It's very unlikely that Norse man would marry into a Saami Siida and adapt to Saami culture and way of life), something simillar could have happened with Inuit and Native American women being taken and brought back to Scandinavia.

[Óttar]

Squanto had been to Europe on more than one occasion.

[Osweo]

Apparently, they were not. In Greenland, they lived side by side with Eskimo, which they rightfully regarded as savages. When farming became impossible, they died out rather than follow Eskimos in their primitive survival ways.

Was this a joke!?

[Pallantides]

It's hard to know when he is joking or being serious...
I think it's possible that mtDNA C1e could come from Inuits also.

In 2010, Icelandic researchers discovered a C1 lineage in their home country, estimating an introduction date of 1700 or earlier. A Native American origin for this C1e lineage is likely, but the researchers note that a European or Asian one cannot be ruled out.

[Pallantides]

If Bjork may be an aberrant Uralic (since she has paper white skin), this guy looks downright Mestizo (very swarthy for an European, let alone Scandinavian). I wonder what is the explanation of such individuals?

To much dried meat, fermented fish and Møllers tran

[Don]

Was this a joke!?

His lessons about Iberians, their language, their origin etc. are much better.

[Agrippa]

Was this a joke!?

Rather not, because I read even in scientist papers and saw in higher level documentaries the idea, that the Vikings died out on Greenland for various reasons, some being that they refused to eat raw meat, which would have been the primary source of vitamins there, once their own agriculture became deteriorated during the Little Ice Age and that they also wore clothes more suitable and fashionable for Western Europe.

They simply changed little of the classic European lifestyle at that time, while the conditions worsened and survival would have only been possible, if they would have adopted, completely, the Eskimo way of life, including the savagery in certain respects, like eating the raw meat and living more mobile in typical way the Arctic demands.

Fact is, there were constant wars with the Eskimos too and when the Vikings/Europeans became weaker, due to the worsening of the climate, they became easy prey, but also because they were unwilling or unable - probably both, to change to the "savage way of life" style.

Christian-European inspired Medieval settlers they were, don't forget that.

[Osweo]

I know all that, Agrippa, it's just that Aherne seemed to approve of the choice of death over adaptation, which seemed pretty stupid to me.