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    Default Is any Finno-Ugric Indicated Here?

    I won't detail this person's known ancestry as that might give some bias.

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% East_German +50% Ukrainian @ 2.796258


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Croatian +25% Erzya +25% West_Norwegian @ 2.159669


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
    1 East_German + Erzya + Ukrainian + West_German @ 1.901167
    2 Erzya + Hungarian + Southwest_English + Ukrainian @ 1.950838
    3 East_German + Erzya + South_Polish + West_German @ 1.991540
    4 East_German + Erzya + Polish + West_German @ 2.026668
    5 Kargopol_Russian + Moldavian + Southwest_English + Ukrainian @ 2.087933
    6 Erzya + Hungarian + Polish + West_German @ 2.114399
    7 East_German + Erzya + Ukrainian_Lviv + West_German @ 2.129049
    8 East_German + Erzya + South_Dutch + Ukrainian @ 2.144579
    9 Croatian + Croatian + Erzya + West_Norwegian @ 2.159669
    10 Erzya + Hungarian + Southwest_English + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.163267
    11 East_German + East_German + Erzya + Hungarian @ 2.180848
    12 Croatian + Kargopol_Russian + Ukrainian + West_German @ 2.195942
    13 Croatian + Croatian + Kargopol_Russian + Norwegian @ 2.224370
    14 Kargopol_Russian + Moldavian + Southeast_English + Ukrainian @ 2.224764
    15 Hungarian + Kargopol_Russian + Polish + West_German @ 2.230694
    16 East_German + Erzya + Russian_Smolensk + West_German @ 2.232043
    17 North_Swedish + Polish + Serbian + Ukrainian @ 2.246083
    18 Croatian + Erzya + Southwest_English + Ukrainian @ 2.251311
    19 Erzya + Hungarian + Southeast_English + Ukrainian @ 2.255191
    20 Croatian + Kargopol_Russian + Polish + West_German @ 2.255644

    Done.

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    Also:

    Eurogenes ANE K7

    Population
    ANE 16.25
    ASE 1.99
    WHG-UHG 62.82
    East_Eurasian 1.31
    West_African 0.47
    East_African 0.72
    ENF 16.43

    Euro K13
    # Population Percent
    1 Baltic 37.28
    2 North_Atlantic 32.84
    3 West_Med 11.92
    4 East_Med 6.83
    5 West_Asian 5.66
    6 South_Asian 1.77
    7 Red_Sea 1.43
    8 Siberian 1.39


    Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
    13 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 South_Polish @ 5.615799
    2 Hungarian @ 6.944128
    3 Croatian @ 7.364062
    4 East_German @ 7.437738
    5 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 7.537293
    6 Ukrainian @ 8.367209
    7 Polish @ 9.347516
    8 Austrian @ 9.387593
    9 Moldavian @ 11.180273
    10 Southwest_Finnish @ 12.414995
    11 Southwest_Russian @ 12.811396
    12 Russian_Smolensk @ 12.933526
    13 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 13.416420
    14 Estonian_Polish @ 13.507435
    15 Belorussian @ 13.618048
    16 North_Swedish @ 14.169118
    17 Serbian @ 15.586457
    18 Finnish @ 15.714602
    19 Estonian @ 16.162874
    20 Kargopol_Russian @ 16.297646

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% East_German +50% South_Polish @ 2.123548


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Estonian_Polish +25% Orcadian +25% Romanian @ 1.106264


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Estonian + Estonian_Polish + Serbian + South_Dutch @ 0.994914
    2 French + Hungarian + Lithuanian + Southwest_Russian @ 1.006805
    3 Lithuanian + North_Italian + North_Swedish + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.031910
    4 East_German + Polish + Serbian + Southwest_Finnish @ 1.041756
    5 Estonian + Russian_Smolensk + Serbian + South_Dutch @ 1.048694
    6 Estonian_Polish + Hungarian + South_Dutch + Southwest_Russian @ 1.097012
    7 Estonian_Polish + Estonian_Polish + Orcadian + Romanian @ 1.106264
    8 Estonian + Lithuanian + Romanian + South_Dutch @ 1.110855
    9 Estonian + French + Lithuanian + Serbian @ 1.130045
    10 Estonian_Polish + Lithuanian + Romanian + Southwest_English @ 1.159342
    11 Estonian + Estonian_Polish + Serbian + West_German @ 1.160213
    12 Lithuanian + North_Italian + North_Swedish + Southwest_Russian @ 1.169903
    13 Estonian_Polish + French + South_Polish + South_Polish @ 1.170097
    14 Belorussian + Croatian + South_Dutch + South_Polish @ 1.170770
    15 East_German + Russian_Smolensk + Serbian + Southwest_Finnish @ 1.178339
    16 Estonian_Polish + Estonian_Polish + Hungarian + South_Dutch @ 1.185554
    17 Estonian_Polish + Hungarian + Russian_Smolensk + South_Dutch @ 1.188112
    18 Estonian_Polish + Estonian_Polish + Orcadian + Serbian @ 1.195627
    19 Croatian + Estonian_Polish + South_Dutch + South_Polish @ 1.197117
    20 Estonian_Polish + Lithuanian + Romanian + Southeast_English @ 1.197196

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    No bites?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CordedWhelp View Post
    No bites?
    Doesn't seem to be any sort of more or less significant F-U ancestry, but post Eurogenes K-36.

    Overall looks like a regular Slav\West Euro mongreloid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not a Cop View Post
    Doesn't seem to be any sort of more or less significant F-U ancestry, but post Eurogenes K-36.

    Overall looks like a regular Slav\West Euro mongreloid.
    Just thought I'd resurrect this thread for fun. I'm not sure what my original intent was with this thread, I guess I was curious to see if her eastern european side would show any assimilated Mordvin ancestry or any such. I suppose a lot of Slavs though get Mordvin-type hits.

    Anyhoot, here's the Eurogenes K36:

    Population
    Amerindian -
    Arabian 0.41 Pct
    Armenian 0.44 Pct
    Basque 2.16 Pct
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro 8.92 Pct
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan 3.65 Pct
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro 15.43 Pct
    East_Med -
    Eastern_Euro 14.50 Pct
    Fennoscandian 7.57 Pct
    French 4.95 Pct
    Iberian 4.89 Pct
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 9.57 Pct
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern -
    North_African -
    North_Atlantic 11.48 Pct
    North_Caucasian 1.88 Pct
    North_Sea 11.48 Pct
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian 0.39 Pct
    South_Central_Asian 0.71 Pct
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural 1.34 Pct
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian -
    West_Med 0.23 Pct

    If you had to guess, what would you guess here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CordedWhelp View Post
    Just thought I'd resurrect this thread for fun. I'm not sure what my original intent was with this thread, I guess I was curious to see if her eastern european side would show any assimilated Mordvin ancestry or any such. I suppose a lot of Slavs though get Mordvin-type hits.

    Anyhoot, here's the Eurogenes K36:

    Population
    Amerindian -
    Arabian 0.41 Pct
    Armenian 0.44 Pct
    Basque 2.16 Pct
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro 8.92 Pct
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan 3.65 Pct
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro 15.43 Pct
    East_Med -
    Eastern_Euro 14.50 Pct
    Fennoscandian 7.57 Pct
    French 4.95 Pct
    Iberian 4.89 Pct
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 9.57 Pct
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern -
    North_African -
    North_Atlantic 11.48 Pct
    North_Caucasian 1.88 Pct
    North_Sea 11.48 Pct
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian 0.39 Pct
    South_Central_Asian 0.71 Pct
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural 1.34 Pct
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian -
    West_Med 0.23 Pct

    If you had to guess, what would you guess here?
    If he is not mixed, then he is Czech.
    If yes, then he looks as Hungarian-East German mix or maybe Ukrainian/Slovak-West German mix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ph2ter View Post
    If he is not mixed, then he is Czech.
    If yes, then he looks as Hungarian-East German mix or maybe Ukrainian/Slovak-West German mix.
    These are my mother’s results. Her ancestry is 1/2 Polish, 1/2 Danish-German blend. She also has 1/16 Ashkenazi.

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    Kargopol has a Finnic contribution. Estonian as well. So it is likely there is a Finnic genetic contribution. Remember these calculators are far from perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ph2ter View Post
    If he is not mixed, then he is Czech.
    If yes, then he looks as Hungarian-East German mix or maybe Ukrainian/Slovak-West German mix.
    So many of you attempt to look like experts by overthinking. It's clear there is some Finnic admixture there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slavic Italian View Post
    So many of you attempt to look like experts by overthinking. It's clear there is some Finnic admixture there.
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    The selection of Kargopol Russian and Estonian together is interesting. I recently began speaking with a fully Russian relative on 23andme with most or all known ancestry from Pskov, near Estonia. I wonder if many Russians from near there migrated down to eastern Poland or Belarus...

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