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    Quote Originally Posted by Sekarotuinen View Post
    Yes, they did, especially in what is now Tunisia. They also left a linguistic impact on the Arabic language in respect to place-names.
    Really? Can you expand on the linguistic impact and the place names?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavrentis View Post
    But they settled North Africa in big numbers, right?
    Not relative to North African numbers in general though. Surely they got absorbed into the general population but it's unlikely that they affected them genetically in any significant way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    I dont think so.
    Do we know the population of North Africa at the time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavrentis View Post
    Do we know the population of North Africa at the time?
    They were garamantes and roman immigrants in north africa. Other berber groups as well. And vandal invasion of north africa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavrentis View Post
    Really? Can you expand on the linguistic impact and the place names?
    Just as an example, the name Andalusia. Vandal -> Vandalusia -> Andalusia -> Al-Andalus.

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    yes, they were I2a1 M-26
    from IJK y-dna branch, I was born somewhere in Iran (Persia), some I stayed in Europe some go far away, reached N. Africa

    While a European point of origin has often been proposed – as I-M170 has not found outside Europe in Paleolithic remains – the modern populations with the greatest proportions of basal, undiverged I* are found in the Caucasus and Iran. These include the Darginians (Dargwa) and North Ossetians of the North Caucasus,[3] and ethnic Iranians from Tehran and Isfahan.[4]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M170




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    Quote Originally Posted by Prasham View Post
    yes, they were I2a1 M-26
    from IJK y-dna branch, I was born somewhere in Iran (Persia), some I stayed in Europe some go far away, reached N. Africa



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M170



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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    300.000 or so.
    80.000

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    They probably have. They faded in obscurity and I doubt they were all carried off as slaves or slaughtered. One century did they have their kingdom in North Africa, until the Eastern Romans reconquered the land.

    Once they lost power they just assimilated into the local culture, either Greek or Berber. That's what I assume. Some might have left for Iberia, where the Visigoths were in power.

    After their conquest they lost their privileged status and were easily assimilated as they were but a tiny population surrounded by a population that was 13 times larger than theirs.
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