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    Default Italians have the highest IQ in Europe



    Source for this is IQ and Global Inequality by Richard Lynn.

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    His is honestly no surprise, Italians tend to be very (if not hyper) analytic, and oftentimes very informed. You may also notice that some of the most informative/thought out posts to be from Italian members and this is reflective of that analytical mindset. These qualities are of course beneficial to an IQ test.

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    LOL, no they do not. That chart is bullshit. Average IQ of Italians is 95, and it's the northern minority that is pulling that figure up. The southern Italians (majority) are in the upper 80s, IQ wise. Yes it would be a big surprise if shithole Italy had an average IQ over 100.

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    ^ Lol, I was thinking the same. Scandinavian countries have the highest IQ in Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grab the Gauge View Post
    LOL, no they do not. That chart is bullshit. Average IQ of Italians is 95, and it's the northern minority that is pulling that figure up. The southern Italians (majority) are in the upper 80s, IQ wise. Yes it would be a big surprise if shithole Italy had an average IQ over 100.
    https://www.researchgate.net/publica...to_R_Lynn_2010

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    Grab the Butthurt.

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    There's a lot of controversy around Lynn. Also if Ireland has one of the lowest IQs and Italy the highest why is Ireland higher in all the last few years PISA scores? How does that make sense?

    http://www.bbc.com/news/education-38212070





    https://www.oecd.org/pisa/pisa-2015-...s-in-focus.pdf

    Ireland also has one of the highest educated populations in Europe after the UK.



    So I'd be a bit wary of these IQ tests and what they say about a population.

    “If the everyday world is your cognitive home, it is not natural to detach abstractions and logic and the hypothetical from their concrete referents,” Flynn writes. Our great-grandparents may have been perfectly intelligent. But they would have done poorly on I.Q. tests because they did not participate in the twentieth century’s great cognitive revolution, in which we learned to sort experience according to a new set of abstract categories. In Flynn’s phrase, we have now had to put on “scientific spectacles,” which enable us to make sense of the wisc questions about similarities. To say that Dutch I.Q. scores rose substantially between 1952 and 1982 was another way of saying that the Netherlands in 1982 was, in at least certain respects, much more cognitively demanding than the Netherlands in 1952. An I.Q., in other words, measures not so much how smart we are as how modern we are.

    This is a critical distinction. When the children of Southern Italian immigrants were given I.Q. tests in the early part of the past century, for example, they recorded median scores in the high seventies and low eighties, a full standard deviation below their American and Western European counterparts. Southern Italians did as poorly on I.Q. tests as Hispanics and blacks did. As you can imagine, there was much concerned talk at the time about the genetic inferiority of Italian stock, of the inadvisability of letting so many second-class immigrants into the United States, and of the squalor that seemed endemic to Italian urban neighborhoods. Sound familiar? These days, when talk turns to the supposed genetic differences in the intelligence of certain races, Southern Italians have disappeared from the discussion. “Did their genes begin to mutate somewhere in the 1930s?” the psychologists Seymour Sarason and John Doris ask, in their account of the Italian experience. “Or is it possible that somewhere in the 1920s, if not earlier, the sociocultural history of Italo-Americans took a turn from the blacks and the Spanish Americans which permitted their assimilation into the general undifferentiated mass of Americans?”
    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/20...e-of-the-above

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    Also if Ireland has one of the lowest IQs and Italy the highest why is Ireland higher in all the last few years PISA scores? How does that make sense?
    Something is fishy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    There's a lot of controversy around Lynn. Also if Ireland has one of the lowest IQs and Italy the highest why is Ireland higher in all the last few years PISA scores? How does that make sense?

    http://www.bbc.com/news/education-38212070





    https://www.oecd.org/pisa/pisa-2015-...s-in-focus.pdf

    Ireland also has one of the highest educated populations in Europe after the UK.



    So I'd be a bit wary of these IQ tests and what they say about a population.





    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/20...e-of-the-above
    I agree on the LYNN controversy, any small degree of research will show this. The fact when it comes to Conclusions based on IQ charts we are looking at selective numbers to make a conclusion about a much broader population. These numbers can be skewed whichever way the selector would desire.

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