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    I saw somepeople who say Pamirid, Aralid and Alföld are subgroups of Turanid. What do you think? Does Turanid have any subgroups? Are Pamirid, Aralid and Alföld subgroups of Turanid?

    Also, i found this:

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndarKhan View Post
    I saw somepeople who say Pamirid, Aralid and Alföld are subgroups of Turanid. What do you think? Does Turanid have any subgroups? Are Pamirid, Aralid and Alföld subgroups of Turanid?

    Also, i found this:
    Wow that chart is absolute bullshit, whoever made it should be arrested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grab the Gauge View Post
    Wow that chart is absolute bullshit, whoever made it should be arrested.
    Actually, this chart seems irrational to me too. therefore i post it.

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    The Turanid race is a Cromagnoid+Mongoloid admixture. The original Cromagnoid component was the Eastern or Andronovo Cromagnoids, the typical race of the Yamna and other steppic Aryan and Ugric tribes.

    The basic Turanid subgroups:
    - Andronovo-Turanids (mostly in Kazahstan, but frequent in Hungary too)
    - Alföldi Turanids between the Hungarians (heavily europoidized axmixture of the Andronovo-Turanids, the average Hungarian Turanid))
    - Mongolo-Turanids in Central and Inner Asia (heavily mongoloidized admixture of the Andronovo-Turanids, common between the Kazahs, but the average Kazah Turanids are not Mongolo-Turanids)

    Also we use the "median" term to the average Andronovo-Turandis between the Europoidized and Mongoloidized versions. The average Kazah Andronovo-Turanid is median. The median Turanid is rare between the Hungarians. the difference between the Hungarian Andronovo and the Kazah median Andronovo Turanids:



    Mongolo-Turanids:



    Alföldi Turanids:


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    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    The Turanid race is a Cromagnoid+Mongoloid admixture. The original Cromagnoid component was the Eastern or Andronovo Cromagnoids, the typical race of the Yamna and other steppic Aryan and Ugric tribes.

    The basic Turanid subgroups:
    - Andronovo-Turanids (mostly in Kazahstan, but frequent in Hungary too)
    - Alföldi Turanids between the Hungarians (heavily europoidized axmixture of the Andronovo-Turanids, the average Hungarian Turanid))
    - Mongolo-Turanids in Central and Inner Asia (heavily mongoloidized admixture of the Andronovo-Turanids, common between the Kazahs, but the average Kazah Turanids are not Mongolo-Turanids)

    Also we use the "median" term to the average Andronovo-Turandis between the Europoidized and Mongoloidized versions. The average Kazah Andronovo-Turanid is median. The median Turanid is rare between the Hungarians. the difference between the Hungarian Andronovo and the Kazah median Andronovo Turanids:



    Mongolo-Turanids:



    Alföldi Turanids:

    Thanks a lot for the informations. Do you know what are the Pamirid, Kumid, Aralid etc. What is their connection with Turanid? Also, What do you think about the arguments like the Yamna and Andronovo were PIE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndarKhan View Post
    Thanks a lot for the informations. Do you know what are the Pamirid, Kumid, Aralid etc. What is their connection with Turanid?
    Nothing. Except maybe the Pamirid, but the origin of the Pamirid race is uncertain.

    Also, What do you think about the arguments like the Yamna and Andronovo were PIE?
    Strongly disagree, I think, the Yamna were proto-Indoiranian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    Nothing. Except maybe the Pamirid, but the origin of the Pamirid race is uncertain.



    Strongly disagree, I think, the Yamna were proto-Indoiranian.
    Do we have any informations which prove what are the Yamna and Maykop? Also, what do you think about the Andronovo, Karasuk, Tagar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndarKhan View Post
    Also, What do you think about the arguments like the Yamna and Andronovo were PIE?
    Basically Yamna and Andronovo were proto-Turkic. Look at my signature for example how lunatic the PIE theory is.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AndarKhan View Post
    Also, what do you think about the Andronovo, Karasuk, Tagar?
    Kipchak-Dingling-Saka + Siberian-Turkic identity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kipchak Hĺkan View Post
    Basically Yamna and Andronovo were proto-Turkic. Look at my signature for example how lunatic the PIE theory is.
    Actually, i red Ismail Miziev, He said things close to it. Therefore i asked Yamna and Maykop.

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