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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Honestly the original Kalevala is difficult to translate even in Finnish (today's standard Finnish). Not to talking about any foreing language. I doubt you have read the original version (incl. all the stories).
    That doesn't matter, if you are going to call a famous book "copypasted" from some epic, you need more evidence than that. Tolkien's works interpreted in hundreds of ways and people made allegories with many things. Yours is sound like only one of them.

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    LOTR was influenced by Norse myths and literature, such as Prose Edda, Poetic Edda, and others.

    If you want to blame anyone for the racism embedded in LOTR, blame Norse writers who were, in fact, racists. It is evident in their depiction of Loki, primary antagonist of the other Norse "gods".

    Why are they so angry with the East?
    Because the pre-Germanic Scandinavians were kicked out of the East to make way for Greek dominance, and relocated to Scandinavia (up through Northwest Russia). They were later subjected to Germanic invasions/wanderings.
    Norse mythology is a mixture Germanic mythology and pre-Germanic mythology. Then Germans took this hybrid mythology back to the mainland, appropriating it as solely their own.

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    Copypasted? Not sure what that really means....

    Well how about this one?

    Tolkien:



    And Kalevala?
    There is text/chapter called: Kullervon Tarina.
    (tarina FIN = story ENG)

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    How is LOTR racist? The fact that white is seen positively and heroic in the books/films? Well, yeah, but Saruman the WHITE was a villain. His orcs had the trademark white-hand stain on their attire.

    The orcs were dark and ugly. But they were fantastical creatures - What the hell does they have to do with (swarthy) humans? Why equate ugly orcs with humans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Tolkien was probably influenced by Wagner to a degree (he would later deny it though) but he himself had a positive attitude towards jews. He wrote an angry letter to the Nazis after his German publisher asked him to confirm if he was of Aryan descent:
    He nailed it when he claimed that Aryans are Indo-Iranians like Persians, Kurds, Gujuratis, Punjabis and so on. He was an intelligent man for his time.

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    Can European people have their own stories, books and movies, why does everyone try to appropriate their culture.

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