Ancestry of Afrikaners

[Rethel]

Make South Africa Polish Again!

[Cristiano viejo]

Portuguese are not considered Boers because they arrived later, during the 19th century, mostly from Mozambique and Angola, along with Italian immigrants.

Later? but if they were the first!

[Melki]

Later? but if they were the first!

They may have "discovered" South Africa, yet they didn't build any permanent settlement there. The South Africans of Portuguese origin migrated from the colonies of Angola and Mozambique and thus, arrived later than the Boers and even the Brits.

[Cristiano viejo]

They may have "discovered" South Africa, yet they didn't build any permanent settlement there. The South Africans of Portuguese origin migrated from the colonies of Angola and Mozambique and thus, arrived later than the Boers and even the Brits.

This is a topic that I dont know enough, so I will keep silence.
What you say.

[Peterski]

This is true, but... we should not overestimate the ethnic Polish component of these people. Many of them were Germans, because Danzig (Gdansk) was still a German city, and a lot of the surrounds as well. But certainly, I see some Polish surnames there. Very interesting.

Actually Gdansk was pretty multi-ethnic at that time, with Germans being around half of the population.

According to B. Szady, in 1770 Germans were 58% of the city's population and 42% were Poles and others.*

*Source:

B. Szady, "Geografia struktur religijnych i wyznaniowych w Koronie w II połowie XVIII wieku", page 165:

https://www.kul.pl/files/845/pdf/sza...uktur_2010.pdf

This 58% can actually be overestimated, because it is from German sources (G. Dabinnus & M. Aschkewitz).

So in reality Germans could be less than half of the city's population shortly before the Partitions of Poland.

It became more German after the First Partition of Poland when Brandenburg-Prussia took it from us.

[Proud Celt]

Most Afrikaners have at least some remote African ancestry, like F. W. de Klerk who had some remote African, Indonesian and Indian ancestors.

[Zanzibar]

Here are two Afrikaner individuals from G25 who seem to don't have any SSA admix, but they have very minor Indian and East Asian (Indonesian) instead. All the other Afrikaners in the G25 data seem to have very little amounts of SSA (Bantu+Khoisan combined) though ranging from literally noise level at 0.2% to 3.4%. They also all tend to have Indian and Indonesian admixture.

Here are the best fit models I can get for the two samples (I run them in the G25 modern spreadsheet)

Target: Afrikaner:AFR076
Distance: 1.2531% / 0.01253116
44.0 English_Cornwall
26.8 French_Paris
18.4 Irish
2.6 Kusunda
2.2 French_South
2.0 Sardinian
1.4 Sherpa
1.2 Jatt_Pathak
0.8 Italian_Lombardy
0.6 Papuan

This one seems to be 100% European.

Target: Afrikaner:AFR094
Distance: 1.9550% / 0.01955015
49.8 Norwegian
29.6 Spanish_La_Rioja
8.6 Macedonian
7.0 Cossack_Kuban
5.0 Spanish_Soria

Another model for these two individuals:

Target: Afrikaner:AFR076
Distance: 1.7565% / 0.01756496
60.4 English
30.0 French_Nord
4.4 Portuguese
2.6 Gujarati
2.6 Indonesian_Java

Target: Afrikaner:AFR094
Distance: 2.9198% / 0.02919804
51.2 French_Nord
37.8 Dutch
10.8 Portuguese
0.2 Indonesian_Java

Here is another Afrikaner with the third lowest SSA score (other two don't score any). Not sure if the African score is noise or a real thing.

Best fit that I can get (run it with the G25 Modern datasheet)

Target: Afrikaner:AFR019
Distance: 1.3843% / 0.01384341
25.0 Spanish_Soria
24.6 French_Pas-de-Calais
14.4 Norwegian
10.6 Slovakian
9.4 Cossack_Kuban
8.2 Kubachinian
6.8 Macedonian
0.8 Ethiopian_Tigray
0.2 Surui

Another model by me:

Target: Afrikaner:AFR019
Distance: 2.7864% / 0.02786425
78.0 French_Nord
19.4 Dutch
1.8 Gujarati
0.4 Indonesian_Java
0.4 Khomani_San


Also

Spoiler!

Here are DNA results of an Afrikaner from this forum:

He lacks SSA and almost zero amount of Indian and SE Asian:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...results-Oracle
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...es-K36-results

[Zanzibar]

I also accept that many "Germans" from the area were undoubtedly Germanised Slavs, too.

Do you know how common are these results for Afrikaners? He doesn't have any SSA and almost zero South Asian?:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...results-Oracle
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...es-K36-results

[Creoda]

Do you know how common are these results for Afrikaners? He doesn't have any SSA and almost zero South Asian?:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...results-Oracle
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...es-K36-results

Out of 30 Afrikaner gedmatch results I've collected (including that one), about 1/5 have no discernable SSA.

[Zanzibar]

Out of 30 Afrikaner gedmatch results I've collected (including that one), about 1/5 have no discernable SSA.

That's interesting. So that's around 6 individuals. It shows that not all Afrikaners have SSA (Bantu+Khoisan) which is interesting. Could it be that some mixed a lot with the more recent Euro migrants to the point that the SSA score disappeared completely when its get to their generation? Do all of them have minor South Asian and Malay/Indonesian ancestry though?