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    Quote Originally Posted by Hapanuwa View Post
    Just like Markos said, I'm Western Turkish with no ancestry outside of Turkey. My 4/4 grandparents are from the same village and both sides of my family say they're Yörüks. State documents show that all of my ancestors for the last 200 years are all from my village and have Turkish/Muslim names.

    Btw this is my G25 K13 top 25:

    Distance to: Hapanuwa
    6.53516641 Turk_North_West
    7.25663145 Turk_Central_West
    8.18973138 Turk_Anatolia
    9.03115164 Turk_South
    9.93495848 Turk_Central_East
    11.30796180 Turk_Burgas
    11.38208241 Turk_Edirne
    11.63338730 Turkish_mixed
    11.86461125 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
    12.05944858 Greek_Chios
    12.09034739 Turk_Crete
    12.94687607 Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
    13.27324376 Greek_Istanbul
    13.74096067 Turk_Komotini
    13.98699753 Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain
    14.22097746 Greek_Andros_Island
    14.52451720 Central_Greek
    14.67988164 Greek_Dodecanese
    14.81816790 Greek_Cappadocian
    15.18119231 Turk_Cypriot
    15.22834200 Sicily
    15.32357008 East_Sicilian
    15.39644115 Malta
    15.44144099 Turk_South_East
    15.45385389 Calabria
    kinda different from what Markos said (central Greece second )

    anyway, you know that these results are not so common (all western turkish results i have seen hardly ever have even the most "exotic" Greeks in top 25) but even in your case that distance from Chios is extremely higher than the distance of Greek_Izmir from Tuscany

    on the other hand the fact that you score Greek islands and mainland before Capadokia may imply that you trully have Greek ancestors, but still much fewer than native anatolian and Oghuz

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    Quote Originally Posted by brennus dux gallorum View Post
    kinda different from what Markos said (central Greece second )

    anyway, you know that these results are not so common (all western turkish results i have seen hardly ever have even the most "exotic" Greeks in top 25) but even in your case that distance from Chios is extremely higher than the distance of Greek_Izmir from Tuscany

    on the other hand the fact that you score Greek islands and mainland before Capadokia may imply that you trully have Greek ancestors, but still much fewer than native anatolian and Oghuz
    Yeah, I'm not sure whether I could have ancestors from Greece but I do think that ancient Anatolians and the Greek Islanders had some kind of genetic connection prior Hellenization of Western Anatolia. This is kind of logical because they're neighbours. Morley predicted my haplogroup to be E-V13, which is most prominent amongst Greeks and Albanians, so who knows. But as much as I know right now, I wouldn't claim (partly) Greek heritage.

    By the way, Markos was referring to my Gedmatch K13

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Turkish 10.32
    2 Central_Greek 13.35
    3 East_Sicilian 14.07
    4 South_Italian 14.77
    5 Ashkenazi 15
    6 Azeri 15.33
    7 Italian_Abruzzo 15.6
    8 Greek_Thessaly 16.76
    9 Cyprian 16.76
    10 Lebanese_Muslim 16.78

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hapanuwa View Post
    Yeah, I'm not sure whether I could have ancestors from Greece but I do think that ancient Anatolians and the Greek Islanders had some kind of genetic connection prior Hellenization of Western Anatolia. This is kind of logical because they're neighbours. Morley predicted my haplogroup to be E-V13, which is most prominent amongst Greeks and Albanians, so who knows. But as much as I know right now, I wouldn't claim (partly) Greek heritage.

    By the way, Markos was referring to my Gedmatch K13

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Turkish 10.32
    2 Central_Greek 13.35
    3 East_Sicilian 14.07
    4 South_Italian 14.77
    5 Ashkenazi 15
    6 Azeri 15.33
    7 Italian_Abruzzo 15.6
    8 Greek_Thessaly 16.76
    9 Cyprian 16.76
    10 Lebanese_Muslim 16.78
    That's interesting. I think at some point everyone who is genetically more Balkanic had ,,Greek'' or genetically Greek ancestors. In specific G25 calculators (or just normal Vahaduo) it happens that I get 5-15% Greek, my father gets even more. I'm also E-V13 and Pontid which is one of the most common phenotypes in Greece and around it (+Turanid influence). Geneplaza K29 also gave me ~9% Greek-Albanian (see my signature). My 16th result on G25 modern pops is Turkish_Deliorman btw and my father's 8th results is Greek_Central_Macedonia, 9th result is Turkish_Deliorman and 10th result is Turkish_Balkans.

    I have a feeling that my theory is not too far from the reality, this is actually a good explanation, without the SSA nonsense, E-V13 is really one of the oldest European haplogroup. Many Balkanites get ,,Greek and South Italian'' on Myheritage but I got mainly Balkan which already contains some ,,Greek'' or South European, this is my theory.

    My K13:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Serbian 4.46
    2 Moldavian 5.76
    3 Romanian 6.38
    4 Bulgarian 8.01
    5 Croatian 8.35
    6 Hungarian 9.29
    7 Austrian 13.21
    8 East_German 14.41
    9 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.52
    10 South_Polish 15.08
    11 Ukrainian 15.53
    12 Greek_Thessaly 16.99

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