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    Commanders say they will 'not hesitate to defend' partner forces

    American forces have shot down a Syrian government fighter jet accused of attacking Kurdish-led troops, prompting a furious response from Damascus as tensions increase.

    US Central Command said the SU-22 dropped bombs near the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), who are being supported by the US-led coalition as they advance on the terrorist stronghold of Raqqa.

    “In accordance with rules of engagement and in collective self-defence of Coalition partnered forces, it was immediately shot down by a US F/A-18E Super Hornet,” a statement said.

    “The Coalition's mission is to defeat Isis in Iraq and Syria. The Coalition does not seek to fight Syrian regime, Russian, or pro-regime forces partnered with them, but will not hesitate to defend Coalition or partner forces from any threat.

    “The Coalition presence in Syria addresses the imminent threat Isis in Syria poses globally. The demonstrated hostile intent and actions of pro-regime forces toward Coalition and partner forces in Syria conducting legitimate counter-ISIS operations will not be tolerated.”

    It was the most significant US attack on Bashar al-Assad's forces since April, when Donald Trump ordered missile strikes on a government airbase that launched a chemical attack.

    American forces also attacked pro-government troops last month, then it bombed hostile units near an SDF training base in An Tanf.

    Commanders from the anti-Isis mission codenamed Operation Inherent Resolve said the SDF-held town of Ja’din, near Tabqa on the outskirts of Raqqa, came under attack from pro-regime forces on Sunday afternoon.

    The attack started at 4.30pm local time (2.30pm BST), wounding a number of SDF fighters and forcing them to flee the strategic town.

    Planes from the US-led coalition “conducted a show of force” that stopped the initial advance by pro-Assad troops, a statement said, adding: “The Coalition [then ]contacted its Russian counterparts by telephone via an established 'de-confliction line' to de-escalate the situation and stop the firing.”

    But at 6.43pm local time (4.30pm BST), the Syrian regime SU-22 dropped bombs near SDF fighters south of Tabqah and the US shot it down.

    The account was contested by Syrian army commanders, who said the plane was bombing nearby Isis positions, rather than the SDF.

    A statement carried by the state-owned Syrian Arab News Agency accused the US of “supporting terrorism” by attacking Assad's forces.

    “The attack stresses coordination between the US and Isis, and it reveals the evil intentions of the US in administrating terrorism and investing it to pass the US-Zionist project in the region," the agency quoted general command as saying.

    Majd Fahd, a correspondent for website al-Masdar News, claimed the pilot was his cousin and a father-of-three. “You American bastards just shot down my cousin's aircraft (Ali) while taking out the scumbags of Isis in the area," he tweeted. “Your kids are waiting for you. Please come back safe and very soon.”

    The outlet later reported clashes between the Syrian Arab Army and SDF in the area, after pro-regime troops reportedly attempted to cross the front line to recover the pilot.

    American officials said Ja'din sits approximately a mile north of an established de-confliction zone between the SDF to the north and Syrian regime to the south.

    “The Coalition calls on all parties to focus their efforts on the defeat of Isis, which is our common enemy and the greatest threat to regional and worldwide peace and security,” a spokesperson for US Central Command added.

    The battle to drive Isis out of swathes of territory in northern Syria has brought opposing local and international actors into fresh conflict in the country’s six-year-long civil war.

    The SDF, which incorporates the Kurdish People’s Protection Units (YPG), has been declared a terrorist group by Turkey and come under attack from rebels backed by Ankara, which perceives Kurdish gains along its border as a threat.

    Assad’s forces have predominantly been fighting anti-government rebels and Islamist extremists including al-Qaeda linked groups, but are expected to increasingly turn their fire on the SDF as other targets wane.

    Russia is supporting the Syrian government alongside Iran, while its rival Saudi Arabia is part of the US-led coalition bombing Isis.

    The coalition is supporting the SDF’s advance on Isis’ de-facto capital of Raqqa with air strikes, while members have also given training and support to selected anti-Isis groups, and American and British special forces are on the ground.

    The UN warned this week that the bombing campaign is killing a “staggering” number of civilians in Isis-held territory, with air strikes continuing to intensify.

    Iran's Revolutionary Guard said it launched its own air strikes against Isis on Sunday, in response to terror attacks on the parliament building and a shrine on Tehran.

    Tehran said surface-to-surface medium range missiles hit Deir Ezzor province, where militants fleeing the advance on Raqqa are fortifying their positions.

    A statement said they were launched from Iran's Kurdistan and Kermanshah provinces, where footage shared on social media appeared to show the missiles rise in an orange glow before heading over Iraq towards their targets.

    The Revolutionary Guard said many “terrorists” were killed and their weapons had been destroyed in the strike but the account could not be independently confirmed.

    A statement warned Isis militants and their “regional and international supporters” of further attacks in retaliation to any future atrocities in Iran.
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    Russia vows to treat US jets in Syria as 'targets' after America shoots down first regime warplane

    "Any flying objects, including planes and drones of the international coalition, discovered west of the Euphrates river will be tracked as aerial targets by Russia's air defences on and above ground," the defence ministry warned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adsız View Post
    Russia vows to treat US jets in Syria as 'targets' after America shoots down first regime warplane

    "Any flying objects, including planes and drones of the international coalition, discovered west of the Euphrates river will be tracked as aerial targets by Russia's air defences on and above ground," the defence ministry warned.
    Key word "tracked". It would not be wise for Russia to actually shoot them down, and I'd be surprised if they did.

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    Not exactly on topic but relevant.


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    Another mistake. The U.S needs to be allied with Syria and Russia, not against them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N1019 View Post
    Key word "tracked". It would not be wise for Russia to actually shoot them down, and I'd be surprised if they did.
    I think you are confused with what "tracking" means... It is used for guided missiles in military jargon when locked at the target.. Not like watching flying/moving objects on the RADAR screen..

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    Quote Originally Posted by adsız View Post
    I think you are confused with what "tracking" means... It is used for guided missiles in military jargon when locked at the target.. Not like watching flying/moving objects on the RADAR screen..
    Not confused at all. Whatever you think "tracked" means, it still falls short of interception and in this case it was clearly a political statement, i.e. tough talk. Talk is cheap, no matter how tough. In any case, by some accounts American aircraft have been active west of the Euphrates since Russia's statement, and while they may have been tracked, they made it home safely.

    My position remains unchanged. There is absolutely no reason to believe Russia has any interest in direct military conflict with the US or allies in Syria. The US, however, is a different story. I believe it will shoot down more aircraft of the Syrian/Russian/Iranian axis should the opportunity arise. Furthermore, the US is itching for an excuse to ramp up its efforts. Russia and Iran would do well to avoid giving America what it wants. I have no doubt Russia understands that, but Iran, with the anxiety it faces at the prospect of being next on the hit list, maybe not.

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