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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocinante View Post
    Good!

    Interesting, you have a semitic clade, with an haplogroup that belongs to the Early European Farmers. The J-L26 is an haplogroup that belongs to the Cohen Modal Haplotype, making it somehow special.

    According YFull tested people, it is common in Portugal, Italy, U.S.A., Great Britain, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, Israel, Armenia and Lebanon.
    Thank you. But it seems rather unreliable since I got two different results. So I can't take anything for granted. I think that we can safely establish that I am J2a though.

    Always considered J1 to be semitic. Unless you mean that this particular clade of J2 is semitic because it belongs to the Cohen Modal haplotype..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epirus DNA View Post
    I got this one too.. but mine has now become:

    J2a1i (L198) (L88)
    So yours didn't change?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dianatomia View Post
    Thank you. But it seems rather unreliable since I got two different results. So I can't take anything for granted. I think that we can safely establish that I am J2a though.

    Always considered J1 to be semitic. Unless you mean that this particular clade of J2 is semitic because it belongs to the Cohen Modal haplotype..
    2 different results? That's pretty unlikely too happend or be real. YSEQ doesn't lie, what is your other result?

    J1 is fully semitic and arab related, J2 could be common in Israel or Lebanon, but nowhere else in the Middle East, it peaks in greeks and turks for example, also Italians have a big bunch of this haplogroup.

    What is truly semitic is your clade (L26) that could be found in the Cohen family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocinante View Post
    2 different results? That's pretty unlikely too happend or be real. YSEQ doesn't lie, what is your other result?

    J1 is fully semitic and arab related, J2 could be common in Israel or Lebanon, but nowhere else in the Middle East, it peaks in greeks and turks for example, also Italians have a big bunch of this haplogroup.

    What is truly semitic is your clade (L26) that could be found in the Cohen family.
    https://cladefinder.yseq.net/ gives me L26 while Morley gives me L88.

    I understand. The Cohens have it, but since J2a is South European/Anatolian, they could have picked it up anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epirus DNA View Post
    I got this one too.. but mine has now become:

    J2a1i (L198) (L88)
    BTW One of the Minoan tested individuals named I0073 also was J2a1i.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dianatomia View Post
    BTW One of the Minoan tested individuals named I0073 also was J2a1i.
    Yeah! Thanks for bringing this up. Through MyTrueAncestry I was able to learn that I shared DNA segments with Minoan I0073 as well as Mycenaean I9041. I share DNA segments with these 4 samples.

    Minoan_Lasithi I0073
    Y-DNA: J2a1i
    GedMatch Kit Z445292

    Mycenaean I9041
    Y-DNA: J2a1i
    GedMatch Kit Z667807

    MA2200 Kalehoyuk c. 1750 BCE
    Y-DNA: J-L26 (J2a1)
    GedMatch Kit Z020190

    MA2212 Ovaören 2400-2100 BCE
    Y-DNA: J-M410 (J2a)
    GedMatch Kit Z208691

    **Interesting Discovery**
    #1 Minoan_Lasithi I0073 shares DNA Segments with Kalehoyuk MA2200
    #2 Minoan_Lasithi I0073 does NOT share DNA Segments with MA2212 Ovaören nor Mycenaean I9041


    MyTrueAncestry vs. GedMatch Kit 'Cross-Check'

    In order to 'Cross-Check' your Archeogenetic Matches with the GedMatch Kits of their Ancient Samples, adjust your SNP query settings for the Autosomal one-to-one Comparison on GedMatch. Of course this is the easy part, but to start set the SNP minimum to length 50 with 2CM required. This is the tip of the iceberg however, as there is a bit more complex work to do beyond a simple comparison to clear up the results, but a good start!
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    It's interesting that we got two Epirot Greeks with J2a haplogroup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voskos View Post
    It's interesting that we got two Epirot Greeks with J2a haplogroup.
    It is quite interesting!! The Despotate of Epirus was the last surviving successor state of the Byzantine Empire, falling to the Ottomans in 1479. A lot of Greeks were able to find refuge in Epirus after the Ottomans took over because of the terrain. The Pindus mountains were a safe-haven for the Klephtes and they're many villages surrounding Ioannina to the North, East, and South that were impenetrable by the Ottomans and Albanians.

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    Do you guys know which clades of j2 are Armenian, Anatolian and Kurdish?

    I've done Geno 1.0 10 yrs a go, it gave me just basic result which is J2(J2a1, J-m172).
    Target: PP
    Distance: 13.9037% / 0.13903704 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    85.2 Armenian_dynasty
    10.6 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
    4.2 Phoenician_settler

    Distance to: PP
    0.13943834 Armenian_dynasty
    0.14268276 Persian_incursions
    0.15227399 Thracian_settler
    0.15294616 Mycenaean_warrior
    0.15440099 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
    0.15476057 Illyrian_settler
    0.15593106 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
    0.15607298 Phoenician_settler
    0.15677407 Minoan_short_med_Southern_Crete

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pater Patota View Post
    Do you guys know which clades of j2 are Armenian, Anatolian and Kurdish?

    I've done Geno 1.0 10 yrs a go, it gave me just basic result which is J2(J2a1, J-m172).
    No, unfortunately I don't. What I do know is that the Armenian, Anatolian, and Kurdish have the same ties to the Kura-Araxes culture as the Minoans do.

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