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    Default Genetic Comparison of Yamnaya and Modern Peoples

    A table which prepared by using Eurogenes Steppe K10

    Blue ones are Indo-Europeans
    Green ones are Non Indo-Europeans


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    Nothing unusual considering that Slavs, Balts and north Caucasians are genetically the most similar to the early PIE peoples of eastern Europe. Turks have more because they have significant Turkic admixture who were already mixed with the Indo-European peoples of central and north Asia in ancient times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900 View Post
    Nothing unusual considering that Slavs, Balts and north Caucasians are genetically the most similar to the early PIE peoples of eastern Europe. Turks have more because they have significant Turkic admixture who were already mixed with the Indo-European peoples of central and north Asia in ancient times.
    Results of Caucasians and finno-Ugrics are very similiar to yamnaya. That's interesting. Also results of slavics and results of caucasian/nortwest Turks are alike. Results of other indo-europeans and results of other turks are alike too. All Results are very interesting. I red some theories about yamnaya. Populer ones say they were pie, other ones say they were proto-turkic.

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    Udmurts and Mordvins beat out Lithuanians. Unsurprising as those populations still actually have Yamnaya specific R1b clades.


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    This is what one yamnaya sample looks like, 4500 years ago:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 NE_Europe 57.84
    2 West_Asia 32.53
    3 South_Asia 4.32
    4 Americas 3.15
    5 SW_Europe 1.53
    6 East_Africa 0.64

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Mordovian 28.97
    2 Russian 29.86
    3 Tatar 30.24
    4 Chuvash 31.6
    5 Polish 31.66
    6 Latvian 32.3
    7 Finnish 32.43
    8 Belarusian 32.52
    9 Lithuanian 32.67
    10 Ukrainian 32.8
    11 Estonian 32.81
    12 Aluet 34.46
    13 Slovak 34.67
    14 Moldavian 34.68
    15 German_North 36.02
    16 Slovene 36.24
    17 Chechen 36.3
    18 Swedish 36.84
    19 Norwegian 36.97
    20 Bosnian 37.11

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 58.9% Finnish + 41.1% Afghan_Pashtun @ 19.02
    2 64.5% Finnish + 35.5% Makrani @ 19.17
    3 61.2% Finnish + 38.8% Pathan @ 19.34
    4 64.5% Finnish + 35.5% Balochi @ 19.38
    5 65.3% Finnish + 34.7% Brahui @ 19.43
    6 60.7% Finnish + 39.3% Pakistan_Pashtun @ 19.53
    7 54.2% Finnish + 45.8% Chechen @ 19.58
    8 65.3% Finnish + 34.7% Punjabi @ 20.27
    9 55.8% Finnish + 44.2% Tadjik @ 20.4
    10 59.6% Latvian + 40.4% Afghan_Pashtun @ 20.63

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    Petty sure that isn't accurate and that it went based off of the amount of a certain component those pops had.
    Learn some about Afghans here
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...of-Afghanistan

    Indian Genomics can be modeled by four-way populations, not two way populations. Read more in this thread:
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...tion-structure

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndarKhan View Post
    Results of Caucasians and finno-Ugrics are very similiar to yamnaya. That's interesting. Also results of slavics and results of caucasian/nortwest Turks are alike. Results of other indo-europeans and results of other turks are alike too. All Results are very interesting. I red some theories about yamnaya. Populer ones say they were pie, other ones say they were proto-turkic.
    They were most certainly PIE peoples and not proto-Turkic peoples since that Turkic peoples originated in today's Mongolia and southern Siberia, and all Turkic peoples share some IBD segments with Mongols and other Mongoloid peoples of east Asia:
    http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetic...l.pgen.1005068

    The PIE peoples were genetically very North-Eastern Europeans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900 View Post
    They were most certainly PIE peoples and not proto-Turkic peoples since that Turkic peoples originated in today's Mongolia and southern Siberia, and all Turkic peoples share some IBD segments with Mongols and other Mongoloid peoples of east Asia:
    http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetic...l.pgen.1005068

    The PIE peoples were genetically very North-Eastern Europeans.
    Not only Mongolia actually. If we say middle asian steppes it would be better. Also Turkish historians accept origin of Turks is Andronovo and Afanasevo.

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    Estonians are genetically Indo-European, they just speak a Non-IE language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndarKhan View Post
    Not only Mongolia actually. If we say middle asian steppes it would be better. Also Turkish historians accept origin of Turks is Andronovo and Afanasevo.
    Really? What about the scientific consensus and the academia of the world? Turkish historians are often lie for nationalistic purposes against the peoples they hate, so they are far from accurate and etc. Turkic peoples originated in today's Mongolia and Siberia, and they got their west Eurasian admixture from the ancient PIE groups of Asia, not the other way around.

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