Genetic results of Scythians and comparisons

[Proto-Shaman]

Even I enjoy ganja sometimes, no hard feelings but these Sumerian-Turkic connections are kinda off world, lets be realistic now

ok. Do you have an academic degree to claim such things?

[Pahli]

ok. Do you have an academic degree to claim such things?

No I have common sense that should be enough, everyone can see that these Turkish historians or whatever are biased (which is a shame).

[Myanthropologies]

Actually closer to Eastern Europeans, especially Ukranians:

????? That random map has nothing to do with sicilians, and as the op diagrams show, they were clearly in between Afghan Tajiks and Russians.

[AndarKhan]

Everything out of Europea belongs to the barbarian periphery. Ironically even the word barbar has Turkic roots btw. Loaned into Indo-European languages as barbar ("foreign, barbarous, roughly, cruelly") via Akkadian "barbaru" ("wolf or leopard"), based on a duplication of Proto-Turkic börü, buri, bürü (in some Turkic dialects babir means 'leopard'). Thats the irony

Such a ironic. :d :d

[Proto-Shaman]

No I have common sense that should be enough, everyone can see that these Turkish historians or whatever are biased (which is a shame).

despite your "common sense" (as you call it) you are not able to make distinctions between European and Turkish academicians. thats pretty poor.

[AndarKhan]

No I have common sense that should be enough, everyone can see that these Turkish historians or whatever are biased (which is a shame).

Of course. If you wanna be a good historian, you musn't be Turk firstly. Such a disgusting perspective.

[Pahli]

????? That random map has nothing to do with sicilians, and as the op diagrams show, they were clearly in between Afghan Tajiks and Russians.

They were a mix 50/50 but Tajiks from Tajikistan and not Afghanistan, the reason why they cluster in Europe is because they barely have any South Asian to pull them Eastward, only the Asian admixture but it pulls them a bit Northward as well. In the end they would still be closer to certain Eastern Europeans, Tatars and Chuvash then Tajik Pamiris. The problem is that no modern ethnicity resembles them 100%, only a mix of Tajik and Baltic do

Of course. If you wanna be a good historian. You musn't be Turk firstly.

I think you guys are having a good time trolling

[Myanthropologies]

They were a mix 50/50 but Tajiks from Tajikistan and not Afghanistan, the reason why they cluster in Europe is because they barely have any South Asian to pull them Eastward, only the Asian admixture but it pulls them a bit Northward as well. In the end they would still be closer to certain Eastern Europeans, Tatars and Chuvash then Tajik Pamiris. The problem is that no modern ethnicity resembles them 100%, only a mix of Tajik and Baltic do



I think you guys are having a good time trolling

Actually, the gedmatch shows quite a bit of south-central asian, and if they were similar to Pamiri Tajiks, then they must be similar to other Eastern Iranics too because Pamiri Tajiks firmly cluster with other Eastern Iranics. Tajiks and Pashtuns are so close that a lot of times in gedmatch you have self proclaimed pashtuns coming up as Tajik before anything else, and vice versa. Eastern Europeans cluster with each other just as much as Tajiks and Pashtuns do. I have also seen plenty of papers by Larzids, etc that model steepe people as 50% EHG and 50% Iranian neolithic. They were obviously not like any modern populations, but it is safe to say that they were between east Europeans and East iranics with a hint of East asian.

[Pahli]

Actually, the gedmatch shows quite a bit of south-central asian, and if they were similar to Pamiri Tajiks, then they must be similar to other Eastern Iranics too because Pamiri Tajiks firmly cluster with other Eastern Iranics. Tajiks and Pashtuns are so close that a lot of times in gedmatch you have self proclaimed pashtuns coming up as Tajik before anything else, and vice versa. Eastern Europeans cluster with each other just as much as Tajiks and Pashtuns do. I have also seen plenty of papers by Larzids, etc that model steepe people as 50% EHG and 50% Iranian neolithic. They were obviously not like any modern populations, but it is safe to say that they were between east Europeans and East iranics with a hint of East asian.

They're closer to East Europeans because:

- High NE_Euro
- Barely any South Asian

They do have South Central Asian components but it only makes them 1/3 Afghan Pashtun and 2/3 Baltic, I'll show you the Eurogenes K15 PCA map:



They're even more European shifted than Tatars, their closest modern ethnicity would be Erzya.

[Myanthropologies]

They're closer to East Europeans because:

- High NE_Euro
- Barely any South Asian

They do have South Central Asian components but it only makes them 1/3 Afghan Pashtun and 2/3 Baltic, I'll show you the Eurogenes K15 PCA map:



They're even more European shifted than Tatars, their closest modern ethnicity would be Erzya.

That pca doesn't align with that the gedmatch even says though, so.