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    Also, the fact that people black out kit numbers and other information that could let others access this stuff for themselves suggests the posaibility of a political bias or some kind of bias.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myanthropologies View Post
    That pca doesn't align with that the gedmatch even says though, so.
    I know, but from the pca plots I've seen they closer to modern East Euros than South Asians, however you can still see that Tajiks aren't that far away. Would have been nice with a Tajik Pamiri plot tho, they would be more Northwestern shifted for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myanthropologies View Post
    Also, the fact that people black out kit numbers and other information that could let others access this stuff for themselves suggests the posaibility of a political bias or some kind of bias.
    I can give you two gedmatch kit numbers if you want, one Iron Age Scythian and one Sarmatian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pahli View Post
    I know, but from the pca plots I've seen they closer to modern East Euros than South Asians, however you can still see that Tajiks aren't that far away. Would have been nice with a Tajik Pamiri plot tho, they would be more Northwestern shifted for sure.
    Who are "South Asians"? You're implying that Pashtuns and Pamiris belong to two different racial categories? Like wtf, they descend from the same exact people. You make it sound like Pamiri Tajiks are some lost Nordic people when they are extremely similar to other Eastern Iranics. We have extremely over studied European DNA, including Eastern Europeans, but barely anything from Afghanistan or Tajikstan, and as more and more samples have been coming in from that area, stories are changing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myanthropologies View Post
    Actually, the gedmatch shows quite a bit of south-central asian, and if they were similar to Pamiri Tajiks, then they must be similar to other Eastern Iranics too because Pamiri Tajiks firmly cluster with other Eastern Iranics. Tajiks and Pashtuns are so close that a lot of times in gedmatch you have self proclaimed pashtuns coming up as Tajik before anything else, and vice versa. Eastern Europeans cluster with each other just as much as Tajiks and Pashtuns do. I have also seen plenty of papers by Larzids, etc that model steepe people as 50% EHG and 50% Iranian neolithic. They were obviously not like any modern populations, but it is safe to say that they were between east Europeans and East iranics with a hint of East asian.
    Pamiri Tajiks are Turanids first of all


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    Quote Originally Posted by Myanthropologies View Post
    Who are "South Asians"? You're implying that Pashtuns and Pamiris belong to two different racial categories? Like wtf, they descend from the same exact people. You make it sound like Pamiri Tajiks are some lost Nordic people when they are extremely similar to other Eastern Iranics. We have extremely over studied European DNA, including Eastern Europeans, but barely anything from Afghanistan or Tajikstan, and as more and more samples have been coming in from that area, stories are changing.

    As I have already mentioned, I base my information based off of what Lazarids papers say and not only gedmatch.
    I ment South Central Asians lol*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kipchak Håkan View Post
    Pamirid Tajiks are Turanids.
    They are not even remotely. I have family members that know Pamiris personally, and one of my cousins is partially pamiri, and they are phenotypically similar to other Eastern Iranics, even Pamiris themselves have claimed that they are similar to other Tajiks and Pashtuns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pahli View Post
    I ment South Central Asians lol*
    That's what Pamiri Tajiks are too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myanthropologies View Post
    They are not even remotely. I have family members that know Pamiris personally, and one of my cousins is partially pamiri, and they are phenotypically similar to other Eastern Iranics, even Pamiris themselves have claimed that they are similar to other Tajiks and Pashtuns.
    anthropologically speaking 100% Turanid


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    Quote Originally Posted by Myanthropologies View Post
    That's what Pamiri Tajiks are too.
    Just ignore that Turkish batbaxti

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