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    Cool K36 Ancient 2.0 - Discussion Thread

    Please discuss about my K36 Ancient 2.0 Oracle here. Link:

    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...=1#post4492835

    I will post here the results of some other people:

    Anakin (Argentina):



    Loki (Afrikaner):

    Last edited by Peterski; 07-04-2017 at 03:20 PM.

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    Can you do the oracle for me please?

    Population
    Amerindian -
    Arabian -
    Armenian 3.85
    Basque 1.39
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro 4.71
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan 6.74
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro 8.43
    East_Med 10.89
    Eastern_Euro 3.59
    Fennoscandian 0.61
    French 1.24
    Iberian 14.94
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 20.32
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern 7.97
    North_African -
    North_Atlantic -
    North_Caucasian -
    North_Sea 4.75
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian -
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural -
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian 3.10
    West_Med 7.47
    23andme: 100% Balkan https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...3andme-results

    MyOrigins 2.0: 100% Southeast Europe

    Geneplaza K25: 100% Greek-Albanian

    Eurogenes K36 oracle: 50.64% Albania_North+ 49.36% Kosovo. Population distance: 1) 1.27 Northern Albania&Kosovo

    Ydna: J1-ZS241

    Maternal Ydna: E-V13>CTS5856*


    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Also I would like to point out that Era is an Albanian from Albania whilst Ylla is an Albanian from Kosovo and not the other way round
    23andme: 100% Balkan https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...3andme-results

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    Geneplaza K25: 100% Greek-Albanian

    Eurogenes K36 oracle: 50.64% Albania_North+ 49.36% Kosovo. Population distance: 1) 1.27 Northern Albania&Kosovo

    Ydna: J1-ZS241

    Maternal Ydna: E-V13>CTS5856*


    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    The samples with the name "ancestral" what are they ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    Also I would like to point out that Era is an Albanian from Albania whilst Ylla is an Albanian from Kosovo and not the other way round
    ok

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    Do one for me also Litvin.

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    Basque 3.14
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro 2.15
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan 8.96
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibericus View Post
    The samples with the name "ancestral" what are they ?
    They are just 100% of a given Eurogenes K36 component.

    For example Ancestral_South_Asian is 100% South_Asian.

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    I will add more samples to this Oracle. There is no sense to continue posting results if it is not yet finished. For example now I will add JK2911 Pre-Ptolemaic Egypt 769–560 BC.

    Pre-Ptolemaic Egyptian in Eurogenes K36:

    Arabian 28.78
    Basque 1.04
    East_Med 21.93
    Iberian 0.62
    Indo-Chinese 0.49
    Near_Eastern 26.96
    North_African 7.39
    Northeast_African 6.50
    Oceanian 0.32
    West_Med 5.97

    Pre-Ptolemaic Egyptian in Eurogenes K15:

    East_Med 43.35
    Red_Sea 23.67
    West_Med 16.30
    Northeast_African 7.62
    Atlantic 4.23
    West_Asian 3.48
    Southeast_Asian 1.30
    Amerindian 0.06

    Pre-Ptolemaic Egyptian in Eurogenes K13:

    East_Med 45.52
    Red_Sea 25.19
    West_Med 16.70
    Northeast_African 5.96
    West_Asian 3.77
    East_Asian 1.23
    Amerindian 0.88
    Sub-Saharan 0.76

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    I have just added Ancient Mode to the Oracle Spreadsheet.

    Here are my results (BA_PLN17 was assigned to Balto-Slavs):

    http://i.imgur.com/C2X8l9M.png


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    Dibran:

    1) Normal nMonte:

    Dibran

    LateBronzeAge_Hungary_BR2 42.60
    CopperAge_MarmaraSea_I1584 29.35
    CopperAge_Italy_RISE489 18.10
    LateBronzeAge_Armenia_RISE412 6.90
    EarlyMedieval_Slavic_Mar7 1.65
    BronzeAge_Levant_I1705 1.40

    IronAge_Sarmatian_I0575 0.00
    IronAge_LevantEgypt_3DRIF26 0.00
    IronAge_GaelicCelt_6DRIF18 0.00
    IronAge_BritishCelt_6DRIF23 0.00
    IronAge_GaulishCelt_6DRIF22 0.00
    IronAge_PictishBrit_6DRIF21 0.00
    IronAge_CelticBriton_HI1 0.00
    IronAge_CelticBriton_HI4 0.00
    IronAge_Celto-German_6DRIF3 0.00
    IronAge_Celto-German_3DRIF16 0.00
    IronAge_EastGermanic_Kow55 0.00
    IronAge_EastGermanic_Kow25 0.00
    IronAge_EastGermanic_Kow22 0.00
    IronAge_EastGermanic_Kow45 0.00
    IronAge_EastGermanic_Mas5 0.00
    IronAge_Egypt_JK2911 0.00
    EarlyMedieval_AngloSaxon_HS2 0.00
    EarlyMedieval_AngloSaxon_HS1 0.00
    EarlyMedieval_Northumbrian_NO3423 0.00
    Hunter_Ethiopia_Mota 0.00
    BronzeAge_Iberia_ATP9 0.00
    LateBronzeAge_Sudovia_RISE598 0.00
    LateBronzeAge_Denmark_RISE276 0.00
    LateBronzeAge_EastGermany_I0099 0.00
    BronzeAge_Ireland_Rathlin1 0.00
    BronzeAge_Hungary_BR1 0.00
    BronzeAge_Cuiavia_PLN17 0.00
    BronzeAge_Silesia_RISE150 0.00
    BronzeAge_Silesia_RISE154 0.00
    BronzeAge_Czechia_RISE577 0.00
    BronzeAge_Czechia_RISE586 0.00
    BronzeAge_EastGermany_I0047 0.00
    BronzeAge_EastGermany_I0116 0.00
    BronzeAge_EastGermany_I0164 0.00
    BronzeAge_EastGermany_I0803 0.00
    LateBronzeAge_Armenia_RISE397 0.00
    BronzeAge_Armenia_I1633 0.00
    BronzeAge_Armenia_I1635 0.00
    BronzeAge_Armenia_I1656 0.00
    BronzeAge_Armenia_I1658 0.00
    BronzeAge_Levant_I1706 0.00
    BronzeAge_Levant_I1730 0.00
    CopperAge_Iran_I1665a 0.00
    CopperAge_Iran_I1665b 0.00
    CopperAge_Iran_I1674 0.00
    LateNeolithic_Iran_I1671 0.00
    CopperAge_Iran_I1661a 0.00
    CopperAge_Iran_I1661b 0.00
    CopperAge_Iran_I1662 0.00
    IronAge_Scythian_I0247 0.00
    IronAge_Hungary_IR1 0.00
    IronAge_Sweden_RISE174 0.00
    IronAge_Iran_F38 0.00
    LateMedieval_Iran_I1955 0.00
    EarlyMedieval_Slavic_RISE568 0.00
    EarlyMedieval_Balto-Slav_Niem34 0.00
    Megalithic_Iberia_I0408 0.00
    Megalithic_Iberia_I0406 0.00
    CopperAge_Iberia_ATP16 0.00
    CopperAge_Iberia_ATP2 0.00
    CopperAge_Iberia_I1300 0.00
    CopperAge_Iberia_I1281 0.00
    CopperAge_Iberia_I1303 0.00
    CopperAge_Iberia_I1314 0.00
    CopperAge_Iberia_I1280 0.00
    CopperAge_Iberia_I1277 0.00
    CopperAge_Iberia_I1274 0.00
    CopperAge_Italy_RISE487 0.00
    CopperAge_Italy_RISE486 0.00
    BronzeAge_Steppe_RISE505 0.00
    BronzeAge_Steppe_RISE395 0.00
    BronzeAge_Steppe_I0423 0.00
    BronzeAge_Steppe_RISE500 0.00
    BronzeAge_Steppe_I0232 0.00
    Ancestral_Amerindian 0.00
    Ancestral_Basque 0.00
    Ancestral_Central_African 0.00
    Ancestral_East_African 0.00
    Ancestral_East_Asian 0.00
    Ancestral_East_Central_Asian 0.00
    Ancestral_Indochinese 0.00
    Ancestral_Malayan 0.00
    Ancestral_North_African 0.00
    Ancestral_Northeast_African 0.00
    Ancestral_Oceanian 0.00
    Ancestral_Pygmy 0.00
    Ancestral_Siberian 0.00
    Ancestral_South_Asian 0.00
    Ancestral_South_Chinese 0.00
    Ancestral_West_African 0.00

    2) Restricted nMonte:

    Dibran

    LateBronzeAge_Hungary_BR2 42.60
    CopperAge_MarmaraSea_I1584 29.35
    CopperAge_Italy_RISE489 18.10
    LateBronzeAge_Armenia_RISE412 6.90
    EarlyMedieval_Slavic_Mar7 1.65
    BronzeAge_Levant_I1705 1.40


    =======================

    Mar7 is an Early Slavic Polish sample from Early Medieval Markowice:



    Ylla also gets some admixture from Poland, but from Pre-Slavic Poland:

    Mas5 is one of Wielbark culture samples from Masłomęcz (in Poland):


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