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    Quote Originally Posted by Ali Pasha Tepelena View Post
    Im not saying its a problem. Im saying these autosomal results and pca maps dont make any sense.
    There are autosomal tests that go like 1000 to 1500 years back such as MyOrigins supposedly goes back 2000 years. If he has tested then he should show obvious slavic admixture. Gedmatch calcs go even much further back, they go back thousands of years. Yet he doesnt show much signs of it if I remember correctly.
    Neither dna land, not even drawing slim who is I2a1b does much.
    There is a Jewish (in pink) and mediterranean/Greek (purple) cluster of I2-dinaric


    But to see if I2-dinaric Albanians have that they need to do a deep subclade testing. Same with R1a, FTDNA projects are good for that.

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    Hevo's chart doesnt associate it with slavs. It's a big group. You will need to test it further for a more specific clade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Era View Post
    Hevo's chart doesnt associate it with slavs. It's a big group. You will need to test it further for a more specific clade.
    Thats what i was thinking too. That picture didnt tell me much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy;4496996.
    It doesn't make him Slavic or any less Albanian, so don't see problem with it.
    Sure it does. He's descended from some Slavic dude

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    Quote Originally Posted by karol.klacansky View Post
    Sure it does. He's descended from some Slavic dude

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    All studies on it associate it with Corded Ware and the Kurgans. It's also older than Proto Slavic branches. So it can't be Slavic when Proto Slavic among Scandinavian clades descend from it.

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    I have seen some sources claim that it's of Corded ware and later on Germanic origin
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    Ydna: J1-ZS241

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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    "The Germanic branch

    The first major expansion of R1a took place with the westward propagation of the Corded Ware (or Battle Axe) culture (2800-1800 BCE) from the northern forest-steppe in the Yamna homeland. This was the first wave of R1a into Europe, the one that brought the Z283 subclade to Germany and the Netherlands, and Z284 to Scandinavia. The Corded Ware R1a people would have mixed with the pre-Germanic I1 and I2 aborigines, which resulted in the first Indo-European culture in Germany and Scandinavia, although that culture could not be considered Proto-Germanic - it was simply Proto-Indo-European at that stage, or perhaps or Proto-Balto-Slavic."
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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Judging by the R1a project on Ftdna, Z283 is found in Germanic countries, Slavic countries and even in some MENA countries
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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karol.klacansky View Post
    Sure it does. He's descended from some Slavic dude

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    Nice logic. Proto Albanians were indo europeans, they absorbed non-IE people, going by your logic those people are not Albanians..

    What about all the I2a and I1.. it wasnt originially slavic or about all the EV13 and R1b in south slavs which is obviously from vlachs and Albanians. I gotplentyof slavicized Serbs whos paternal ancestors were Albanians which exceeds by far the slavic ancestry in Albs

    But when an Albanian tests a non Albanian ydna like slavic , you all get excited lol.. there was an Albanian recently tested i2a1b.. both are still minorities in the hundreds of Albanians tested. There are by far more south slavs with ev13 etc

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