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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    and easterly to Poles
    Rather to Czechs. Czechs are kind of a mix of West Germans and Belorussians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    PS: I don't think east Germans are exactly same like Poles. More like Czechs or more northwest shifted-Hungarians. Poles are more northern on average than them, and actually closer to north Germans if I remember well.
    Poles are not more "northern" than Germans, O.K.
    They are a prevalently an Eastern European people. Though they have mixed with Germans and other nearby people through the course of history!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Septentrion View Post
    Poles are not more "northern" than Germans, O.K.
    They are a prevalently an Eastern European people. Though they have mixed with Germans and other nearby people through the course of history!
    Nope. Poles have much less mediterranean ancestry than Germans. So they are northeastern shifted compared with German average.

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    Germans plot closer to Danes than to both French or Poles.
    Poles and French must fight with each other to decide who is closer to Germans between the two.

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    Northern Germans to Scandinavians, Eastern to Poles and Western to French, probably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Böri View Post
    Germans plot closer to Danes than to both French or Poles.
    Poles and French must fight with each other to decide who is closer to Germans between the two.
    the answer is czechs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Nope. Poles have much less mediterranean ancestry than Germans. So they are northeastern shifted compared with German average.
    No, dear. I am afraid but you are mistaken. When we compare both the overall German and Polish genomes with biogeographic regions, it is to tell which population has more genomic affinity with Mediterranean regions.
    1.) German genome:
    Western & Central Europe = 42%
    Eastern Europe = 16%
    Scandinavia = 14%
    Great Britain & Ireland = 11%
    Southern Europe = 6%
    Finland & Northern Siberia = 6%
    Jewish Diaspora = 5%

    2.) Polish genome:
    Eastern Europe = 59%
    Western & Central Europe = 13%
    Southern Europe = 7%
    Jewish Diaspora = 6%
    Asia Minor = 5%
    Finland and Northern Siberia = 5%
    Central Asia = 3%
    Scandinavia = 2%
    Thus it is pretty clear, that Poles are not any more northern genetically than Germans as a whole. Mediterranean genes ( Southern Europe + Asia Minor especially to a lesser extent Jewish Diaspora) are more numerous in the Polish than the German population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    PS: I don't think east Germans are exactly same like Poles. More like Czechs or more northwest shifted-Hungarians. Poles are more northern on average than them, and actually closer to north Germans if I remember well.
    Oh well, there is the Czech genome:
    Eastern Europe = 46%
    Western & Central Europe = 28%
    Southern Europe = 11%
    Jewish Diaspora = 4%
    Asia Minor = 4%
    Scandinavia = 2%
    Central Asia = 2%
    The Czech share more similarities with Germans than Poles, but are still "eastern-oriented" as Poles. Finally they are not more "northern"- shifted than either Germans or Poles.

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    Scandinavians.

    Ethnically French people (i.e. not Alsatians, who are Germanic; or Bretons, who are Celtic) are a SW-Euro/Mediterranean people, like Spaniards or Italians.

    Germans are NW-Euro/North Atlantic like Scandinavians, British Isles, and the Dutch/Flemish

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    French on average.

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