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Thread: Do Germans are genetically more similar to Scandinavians or French?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Wiki says he's 1/4 British.
    He s 1/4 northern France (Amiens) 1/4 Brit and 1/2 southwest, half Basque probably even, as his family is from Hautes-Pyrénées which is neighbour region really next to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    He s 1/4 northern France (Amiens) 1/4 Brit and 1/2 southwest, half Basque probably even, as his family is from Hautes-Pyrénées which is neighbour region really next to it.
    1/8 English actually
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouistreham View Post
    Remarkably ridiculous assumption.
    Just FYI: Alsatians are hardly distinguishable from other Frenchmen, and Bretons are actually darker than the average (just like Welsh and Cornish are in the UK).

    I have often seen (on that board and other fora) Anglo-ignorants assuming that Brittany —probably mainly because of its name— must have some Germanic input.
    Actually, Brittany was probably the only French region that wasn't impacted by Frankish settlements, and didn't undergo any significant Saxon or Scandinavian invasion.
    Alsatians aren't French - they're West Germans that were conquered by France and forcibly Frenchified. They're no more French than the Irish are Anglo-Saxon because they mostly speak English now.

    Bretons plot near other NW Europeans, not near French

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Martnen View Post
    Alsatians aren't French - they're West Germans that were conquered by France and forcibly Frenchified. They're no more French than the Irish are Anglo-Saxon because they mostly speak English now.

    Bretons plot near other NW Europeans, not near French
    It's more complex than that. Alsatians aren't genetic outliers compared with other eastern French, in fact west Germans and eastern French are closely related genetically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    Latvians/Lithuanians are certainly some of the most mesolithic, if not the most, but they are not just that so it's always hard to tell with a modern reference, you score more what these people score than something clearly and only mesolithic . Even Baltics are no more than 60-70% mesolithic depending on how narrow you evaluate it and mesolithic is also high in some other regions, so Germans can get some of their overal mesolithic through other components. Even "neolithic" has a lot in it.
    Nice fanfic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmoo View Post
    Nice fanfic.
    So what is your version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not a Cop View Post
    So what is your version?
    My version is pretty simple: if it walks like a dog, barks like a dog, and looks like a dog- then it is a dog. Functional proximity is of paramount importance, and Balts are not even close in taking a title Petalpusher ascribed to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmoo View Post
    My version is pretty simple: if it walks like a dog, barks like a dog, and looks like a dog- then it is a dog. Functional proximity is of paramount importance, and Balts are not even close in taking a title Petalpusher ascribed to them.
    So you say that due to phenotypical differences between modern Balts and Mesolithic Euros (WHGs) it's impossible for Balts to have this amount of WHG ancestry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not a Cop View Post
    So you say that due to phenotypical differences between modern Balts and Mesolithic Euros (WHGs) it's impossible for Balts to have this amount of WHG ancestry?
    Yes, same goes for the Basques, who, as has been shown several times before on similar threads, have effectively higher WHG than Balts.
    Also, the way many of those components are interwired (one being composed significantly of other) and the way founder effects, small effective population sizes (not to be confused with total population sizes) and migrations affect their ratios rather randomly and non-functionally make their importance quite small. Of course, those who made up a whole religion based on those ("no blue eyes, not true European WHG", "get atleast 60% of Villabrunna-like on Davidski custom $$_xXx_$$ calc or u no human") will just continue sperging no matter what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmoo View Post
    Yes, same goes for the Basques, who, as has been shown several times before on similar threads, have effectively higher WHG than Balts.
    Also, the way many of those components are interwired (one being composed significantly of other) and the way founder effects, small effective population sizes (not to be confused with total population sizes) and migrations affect their ratios rather randomly and non-functionally make their importance quite small. Of course, those who made up a whole religion based on those ("no blue eyes, not true European WHG", "get atleast 60% of Villabrunna-like on Davidski custom $$_xXx_$$ calc or u no human") will just continue sperging no matter what.
    Aren't Lithuanians pred. east baltic that's considered a reduced or altered borreby? Something of that nature? I don't get what makes Lithuanians so un-WHG like. They're not similar to the situation with Basques as they're clearly different phenotypically.

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