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Thread: Poll for Christians, what system would you rather ally yourself with, Islam or Scientism / Atheism?

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    Choosing between the plague and cholera. Which one kills you quicker ? At least under Islam, the guilty party gets dealt with.



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    admitting than i belong by very far to the christian world, i prefer largely atheism/scientism than an archaic middleager sect who refute a single inch of critics and menace you of death at the end of each phrase because "it's god's will" ,damn did they never learn than "god is love"? if i take as reference the base of the christian/jewish values
    atheist/scientists are not all monsters and it could gave interresting metaphysical debates, i had allready made some

    and ,i,also support christian and judaism progressivism or something sometimes called liberal judaism where women are elected rabbin,or priest

    by delphine horvilleur,rabbin, from the french liberal jewish movement :

    On the sail:
    "The Islamic veil is not the only one to imply that women's uncovered bodies would contaminate men. In all religions, fundamentalists seize upon modesty, especially that of women, to try to contain them and restrict them to the boundaries of their bodies, as if their physiological functions fully defined them and were to be placed under control, shrouded in law.

    On fundamentalism:
    "Religious fundamentalism is that pathology of the gaze that makes it incandescent. Obscurantism refers precisely to study in the dark, that is, without dialogue with the affairs of the world, and in contempt for those who plant and reap. It is a withdrawal from the world that sets fire to it by imagining paradoxically to save it. "

    "Such is the essence of the fundamentalist discourse that locks or mutilates its peers in the name of its fathers. That is, who seeks to limit the human experience to his vision of the world, in the name of an often fantasized past or a practice re-invented as timeless. Such a religious project is "pharaonic" in the biblical sense of the term, since it attempts by force to build mausoleum-pyramids to enclose the remains of a mortiferous deity. "

    The dangers of literal interpretation:
    "When some today still cite indisputable writing, it is useful to remember that a text is sacred if we accept that its message is not closed by its original meaning and if we refuse to instrumentalize it. »

    i couldn't agree more with her
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    Quote Originally Posted by coolfrenchguy View Post
    admitting than i belong by very far to the christian world, i prefer largely atheism/scientism than an archaic middleager sect who refute a single inch of critics and menace you of death at the end of each phrase because "it's god's will" ,damn did they never learn than "god is love"? if i take as reference the base of the christian/jewish values
    atheist/scientists are not all monsters and it could gave interresting metaphysical debates, i had allready made some

    and ,i,also support christian and judaism progressivism or something sometimes called liberal judaism where women are elected rabbin,or priest

    by delphine horvilleur,rabbin, from the french liberal jewish movement :

    On the sail:
    "The Islamic veil is not the only one to imply that women's uncovered bodies would contaminate men. In all religions, fundamentalists seize upon modesty, especially that of women, to try to contain them and restrict them to the boundaries of their bodies, as if their physiological functions fully defined them and were to be placed under control, shrouded in law.

    On fundamentalism:
    "Religious fundamentalism is that pathology of the gaze that makes it incandescent. Obscurantism refers precisely to study in the dark, that is, without dialogue with the affairs of the world, and in contempt for those who plant and reap. It is a withdrawal from the world that sets fire to it by imagining paradoxically to save it. "

    "Such is the essence of the fundamentalist discourse that locks or mutilates its peers in the name of its fathers. That is, who seeks to limit the human experience to his vision of the world, in the name of an often fantasized past or a practice re-invented as timeless. Such a religious project is "pharaonic" in the biblical sense of the term, since it attempts by force to build mausoleum-pyramids to enclose the remains of a mortiferous deity. "

    The dangers of literal interpretation:
    "When some today still cite indisputable writing, it is useful to remember that a text is sacred if we accept that its message is not closed by its original meaning and if we refuse to instrumentalize it. »

    i couldn't agree more with her
    I don't like it when people make sweeping statements about "religious fundamentalism" when actually referring to Islam. Because there is nothing wrong with Christian fundamentalism. True Christians are fundamentalists in their faith, and that's a good thing, and incomparable to anything Islam could offer. People shouldn't be scared to name Islam directly. Unfortunately they are, because they know it could have consquences for them. Hence they are a bit cowardly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malcolm View Post
    Bunch of heathens.



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