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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    It is difficult to discuss about Italy nowdays.

    I've received personal threats few times just because I've said that Italians aren't Romans but predominantly Germanic people.

    You see history is written in the way that "everyone remains satisfied" both Winners and Loosers. Truth is painful.

    Truth is however, that Constantinople has lost Italy in 545 A.D to Lombards and Ostrogoths, but that hurt pride of many modern Italians
    who want to called themselves "Romans" and historians even avoid to mention that Constantinople as a capital of Rome since 3rd century, and
    that Anatolia is the place where Troy is located, they avoid to mention Aeneas, people of Argos etc..

    Same goes for modern Italian language that has 4 or 5 cases instead of 7 (Latin) or 8 (Greek). Italian language is inferior to those two
    because it developed much faster unlike Latin and Greek that were in use for thousands of years and that's because Germanic people
    invented their languages much much later when they get in contact with Romans.

    People say: Italian is the closest language to Latin. That's incorrect. Italian is the most distant language to Latin language. Why?
    When you compare languages you compare Grammar .. not Words. Words could be loaned easily to any language. You can't
    loose 3 cases within 200 years. That's impossible. What is possible is that Italian is Lombard language that took many words from Latin.

    Now we come to another thing. What happened to Latin? Well.. Caesar Flavius Heraclius Augustus (610-641) has decreed that
    Latin language is no more official language of Roman Empire. That, Italy has fallen in hands of "barbarians" and that Latin populace is no more, and that previously
    de-jure language "Greek" is now de-facto language.. so that even those who knew Latin eventually moved to Greek.

    How can I explain Italians that in 6th century official language was Greek when they refuse to accept that fact that after 3rd and 4th century
    Rome wasn't even a Capital City.
    Sardinian and Italian are the languages closest to Latin and saying that Italian is a Germanic language is non-sense, italian just received some loanwords from the invaders. The Romance languages least related and more morphologically distant from Latin are the Gallo-Romance and Portuguese languages.

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    La nostra c intervicalica è detta a regola fricativa-approssimativa dai glottologi

    Aspiriamo brava a notarlo la t che inter vocalica diventa come il th inglese

    Ma anche le g inter vocaliche che diventano come le francesi J

    Ma anche le p inter vocaliche che diventano qualcosa che approssima il ph greco non proprio in f ma un ibrido f-p

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6dw_AMEZvVA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longobarda View Post
    effectively the gallo-italic dialects sound french
    They sound darn Italian to my ears, and like anything but French...
    Furthermore, we are unable to grasp a single word of those languages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiCa View Post
    La nostra c intervicalica è detta a regola fricativa-approssimativa dai glottologi

    Aspiriamo brava a notarlo la t che inter vocalica diventa come il th inglese

    Ma anche le g inter vocaliche che diventano come le francesi J

    Ma anche le p inter vocaliche che diventano qualcosa che approssima il ph greco non proprio in f ma un ibrido f-p

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6dw_AMEZvVA
    L'unica che ho dimenticato è la P intervocalica. Certo che il toscano ha un bel "suono". Anche in toscana, tuttavia, ci sono differenze nella pronuncia. Ma qualcuno ha capito da dove arriva quella gorgia? Quelle th, J etc. chi le ha trasmesse ai toscani? Gli etruschi avrebbero potuto averle già?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouistreham View Post
    They sound darn Italian to my ears, and like anything but French...
    Furthermore, we are unable to grasp a single word of those languages.
    to me they sound french

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longobarda View Post
    L'unica che ho dimenticato è la P intervocalica. Certo che il toscano ha un bel "suono". Anche in toscana, tuttavia, ci sono differenze nella pronuncia. Ma qualcuno ha capito da dove arriva quella gorgia? Quelle th, J etc. chi le ha trasmesse ai toscani? Gli etruschi avrebbero potuto averle già?
    boh.. un si sa miha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouistreham View Post
    They sound darn Italian to my ears, and like anything but French...
    Furthermore, we are unable to grasp a single word of those languages.
    strange. A friend of mine who is interpreter and FRENCH, and was living in Italy for 10 years, told me that our dialects are very similar to the ones spoken in northern France, i.e. where she comes from.

    Moreover, when you referto "those languages" to which dialects are you referring to? because it is not the same a piamontese dialect or a lombard dialect (and in Lombardy bergamasque is a lot different from the Others) or a emilian dialect. They sound "similar" but not in the vocabulary and specially not in the pronounciation.

    And, I would add, that "those languages" have a german superstratus. This may be why you don't grasp a word of them.

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    Lagheè dialect of Nearby Como Lake of Lombardy

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiCa View Post
    Lagheè dialect of Nearby Como Lake of Lombardy
    beautiful language!

    Tuscan lady

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longobarda View Post
    strange. A friend of mine who is interpreter and FRENCH, and was living in Italy for 10 years, told me that our dialects are very similar to the ones spoken in northern France, i.e. where she comes from.

    Moreover, when you referto "those languages" to which dialects are you referring to? because it is not the same a piamontese dialect or a lombard dialect (and in Lombardy bergamasque is a lot different from the Others) or a emilian dialect. They sound "similar" but not in the vocabulary and specially not in the pronounciation.

    And, I would add, that "those languages" have a german superstratus. This may be why you don't grasp a word of them.
    many Alpine Chours songs have both translation in German and Italian




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