Amazigh kings

[Numidia]

[Sekarotuinen]

Do you not identify with Maghrebi Arabs, do you hold a purely Berber identity?

[Cristiano viejo]

Caracalla an Amazigh??

[Jehan]

A good number weren't muslims. You should link yourself to the original amazigh cultur.

[Numidia]

Do you not identify with Maghrebi Arabs, do you hold a purely Berber identity?

I don't even speak tamazight so I don't see differences

[Kamal900]

Caracalla an Amazigh??

He was quarter Berber. His mother was a Syrian Arab named Julia Domna, and his father was half Punic(the majority of them were of Berber ancestry) and Italian from today's Libya:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_Domna#cite_note-2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septimius_Severus

[Pulsa Dinura]

... His mother was a Syrian Arab named Julia Domna

Apparently, you do not miss any opportunity to insert the epithet "Arab".
Julia Domna was not Syrian, did not speak Arabic and definitely was not Arab.

[Kamal900]

Apparently, you do not miss any opportunity to insert the epithet "Arab".
Julia Domna was not Syrian, did not speak Arabic and definitely was not Arab.

See the article before you spew nonsense. She was from Syria and she was an Arab. If you have evidence to back your claims that she wasn't then please do. No, I don't go around claiming ancient civilizations and etc as Arabs, but all of a sudden you accuse me of such things simply because I claimed that one historical figure as an Arab.

[Pulsa Dinura]

See the article before you spew nonsense.

I saw the 2 articles .... nothing is mentioned about Arabs or Julia Domna being an Arab.

She was from Syria

She was from ACTUAL Syria (back then, it was a part of the Roman Empire)

and she was an Arab.

Arabs were in Emesa during her time?
At least she would be speaking Arabic, was it the case?
Is Julia an Arabic name?
From which tribe?
Who were her ancestors?

If you have evidence to back your claims that she wasn't then please do..

The burden is on you to prove that an Empress consort of the Roman Empire was an Arab.

No, I don't go around claiming ancient civilizations and etc as Arabs, but all of a sudden you accuse me of such things simply because I claimed that one historical figure as an Arab.

I have no problem with your claim if you said:
"His mother was a Syrian named Julia Domna"

My question:

Why did you insert the epithet "Arab"?

[Kamal900]

I saw the 2 articles .... nothing is mentioned about Arabs or Julia Domna being an Arab.


She was from ACTUAL Syria (back then, it was a part of the Roman Empire)


Arabs were in Emesa during her time?
At least she would be speaking Arabic, was it the case?
Is Julia an Arabic name?
From which tribe?
Who were her ancestors?


The burden is on you to prove that an Empress consort of the Roman Empire was an Arab.

I have no problem with your claim if you said:
"His mother was a Syrian named Julia Domna"

My question:

Why did you insert the epithet "Arab"?

She was from modern day Homs, Syria, and not an actually modern day Syrian, yes. She had a Roman name like most of the Romanized peoples of the Roman empire, but she was an ethnic Arab according to the reference from the first article above:

Irfan Shahid, Rome and The Arabs: A Prolegomenon to the Study of Byzantium and the Arabs, Washington, 1984, Dumbarton Oaks Research Library, p. 167, ISBN 0-88402-115-7; Glen Warren Bowersock, Roman Arabia, Cambridge, Harvard University Press, 1983, pp. 126128, ISBN 0-674-77756-5 [1]. "with the last of his names, he clearly tried to forge a link with the ultimate Antonines, who were the Arab emperors from the family of Julia Domna"; Maxime Rodinson, The Arabs, Chicago, University of Chicago Press, pp. 55, ISBN 0-226-72356-9, [2], "The emperor Septimus Severus married an Arab from Emessa, Julia Domna, whose sons and great-nephews ruled Rome."

I said she was an Arab because of her ethnicity or ancestry, that's all. The same goes to Severus who is half Punic(they were either fully Phoenician, Berber or a mix between the two) and half Italian. There were Arabian tribes living in Syria, and many of them settled in cities like Palmyra who they mixed with the Arameans of that city, yes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmyr...ge_and_society