Is the Albanian language older than the Greek one??

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Are you actually being serious? German comes from the Germanic branch not Greek, stop this bullshit Greek isn't the mother of all languages like how you like to claim

Yes I am dead serious. Gothic can be transliterated word for word into Greek cognates without any change in syntax or grammar. Before that they said nothing. How could they have communicated using words defined for concepts that were invented by Homer and Plato unless these concepts and the words for them came in the form of written Greek.

90% of the words in all European languages are derived directly from written Greek. It is because of the use of the Greek alphabet and Greek literature that was speared throughout the Roman Empire that Europe speaks a common language. Greece literature spread ideas, and knowledge that were unknown to the rest of Europe thus the Greek names for these new concepts became part of the language everywhere.

Before the introduction of Greek the vocabulary of the Germanic tribes consisted of about 60 lone words which is all that a hunter gatherer would have needed.

Grimm's Law proves that Germanic was derived wholly from Greek since it states that the Germanic consonants evolved from the corruption of softer sounds that are only extant in Greek. These sounds are those of gamma, delta and beta.

In indo-European theory the sounds of gamma, delta, and beta correspond to the reconstructed Voiced Aspirated gh, dh and bh, velar, dental and labial sounds. This fact and classification was already known to Aristotle and is explained fully by Dionysus Thrax in his Greek Grammar written in 100 BC

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Are you actually being serious? German comes from the Germanic branch not Greek, stop this bullshit Greek isn't the mother of all languages like how you like to claim

It's true man. Ancient greek sounds like gothic or some Baltic language. It dosn't sound like modern Greek. Weird!

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For example In the example below it can be seen that not only is there a Greek word or phrase for every word in Gothic which not only has the same meaning but the same pronunciation as the Greek, but the syntax of Gothic is exactly the same as that as ancient Greek without a single variation.

Mark 1:10 jah suns usgaggands us bpamma watin gasahw usluknans himinans jah ahman swe ahak atgaggandan ana ina.

Mark 1:10 kai sun e3ebigente eis par-umon udon ki-as-e8oren skizomenos agiou-menon, kai agion os geraki katabigente ano ekinou

Mark 1:10 and as he came out of the public waters he saw opening the heavens and holyness like a hawk came down on him

This is proof that Gothic was a barbarised Greek dialect in between Ancient and Modern Greek and not a derivative of Proto-Indo-European.

The standard Greek version of this passage is given below and would seem to suggest that the Gothic text was based on a Greek translation of a common Aramaic text made in about 400 AD

Mark 1:10 kai eu8ews anabainwn apo tou udatos eiden scizomenous tous ouranous kai to pneuma wsei peristeran katabainon ep auton

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Basically 200 years ago everyone was speaking albanian in what is todya's territory of Greece.

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It's true man. Ancient greek sounds like gothic or some Baltic language. It dosn't sound like modern Greek. Weird!

Ancient Greek was pronounced EXACTLY like modern Greek. This has already been discussed in this thread:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...e-modern-Greek

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Basically 200 years ago everyone was speaking albanian in what is todya's territory of Greece.

Everyone spoke Greek, including Ali Pasha. Arvanitika wasn't Albanian but a hybrid language of Greek and Albanian consisting of 40% Greek words, born out of necessity.

Every Albanian also spoke Turkish btw and wrote with an Arabic script.

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Ancient Greek was pronounced EXACTLY like modern Greek. This has already been discussed in this thread:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...e-modern-Greek

The stops are aspirated, is it like that in modern Greek?

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Everyone spoke Greek, including Ali Pasha. Arvanitika wasn't Albanian but a hybrid language of Greek and Albanian consisting of 40% Greek words, born out of necessity.

Every Albanian also spoke Turkish btw and wrote with an Arabic script.

So majority of greeks spoke albanian but modern greek creeped up as written language then everyone started speaking it.. same thing as tosk in albania, in 20-30 years everyone will speak with tosk dialect because is the written version.

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So majority of greeks spoke albanian but modern greek creeped up as written language then everyone started speaking it.. same thing as tosk in albania, in 20-30 years everyone will speak with tosk dialect because is the written version.

Majority? What are you smoking? Arvanites were by no means a majority. They were billingual and spoke Greek and Arvanitika (not Albanian) because their region in Albania had been overrun by Albanians and were under the rule of Albanian feudal lords and later under the rule of Turkalbanians.

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Majority? What are you smoking? Arvanites were by no means a majority. They were billingual and spoke Greek and Arvanitika (not Albanian) because their region in Albania had been overrun by Albanians and were under the rule of Albanian feudal lords and later under the rule of Turkalbanians.

No, arvanites were the late latest wave of albanian speaking people in greece, albanian was spoken in every corner of greece at one point. Athens till 150 years ago. The modern day greek creeped up as a standard.
Basically it means that we have just as much claim to greek land as you have to albanian land. It explains the conflict between us. The only logical solution is to make albanian as standard language on both countries. Then whoever wants to continue speaking greek let them.