J2b2a M241 Iron Age Armenian.

**Voskos** · 07-25-2017, 10:24 PM

Just noticed Iron Age Armenia is J2b on below chart:

1209-1009 BC late Bronze Age Norabak Culture in Armenia (sample RISE408) in Allentoft et al. 2015 is
J2b2a-M241>L283>Z600(xZ627)

Sources:

https://j2-m172.info/links/scientific-papers/

His autosomal:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 45.04
2 West_European 31.95
3 Mediterranean 15.46
4 Southwest_Asian 3.84
5 South_Asian 2.38
6 East_European 1.33

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Urkarah (Xing) 11.95
2 Stalskoe (Xing) 13.09
3 Lezgins (Behar) 22.91
4 Adygei (HGDP) 23.49
5 Kurd (Dodecad) 25.12
6 Iranian (Dodecad) 25.74
7 Turkish (Dodecad) 26.33
8 Turks (Behar) 26.55
9 Kurd (Xing) 26.91
10 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 27.42
11 Iranians (Behar) 27.96
12 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 28.25
13 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 28.87
14 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 29.32
15 TSI (HapMap) 30.58
16 Tuscan (Xing) 30.62
17 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 30.95
18 Armenian (Dodecad) 31.35
19 Tuscan (Henn) 31.6
20 Armenians_16 (Behar) 31.73

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.1% Lezgins (Behar) + 30.9% French_Basque (HGDP) @ 3.43
2 67.8% Lezgins (Behar) + 32.2% Spaniards (Behar) @ 3.49
3 68.1% Lezgins (Behar) + 31.9% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 3.89
4 67.8% Lezgins (Behar) + 32.2% IBS (1000Genomes) @ 4.05
5 67% Lezgins (Behar) + 33% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 4.41
6 58% Georgians (Behar) + 42% Irish (Dodecad) @ 4.62
7 64.7% Lezgins (Behar) + 35.3% French (HGDP) @ 4.74
8 57.5% Lezgins (Behar) + 42.5% TSI (HapMap) @ 5.27
9 57.1% Georgians (Behar) + 42.9% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) @ 5.32
10 57.2% Georgians (Behar) + 42.8% British (Dodecad) @ 5.44
11 58.3% Lezgins (Behar) + 41.7% Tuscan (Henn) @ 5.47
12 57.3% Georgians (Behar) + 42.7% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 5.48
13 63.4% Lezgins (Behar) + 36.6% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 5.52
14 59.1% Georgians (Behar) + 40.9% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 5.75
15 65.7% Lezgins (Behar) + 34.3% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 5.92
16 56.5% Georgians (Behar) + 43.5% Kent (1000 Genomes) @ 5.97
17 66.4% Adygei (HGDP) + 33.6% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) @ 5.98
18 66.6% Adygei (HGDP) + 33.4% British (Dodecad) @ 6.14
19 69.6% Lezgins (Behar) + 30.4% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 6.14
20 54.4% Georgians (Behar) + 45.6% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 6.18

**~~Hamlet~~** · 07-25-2017, 10:28 PM

Woah wtf, that's so West-shifted.

**~~Sikeliot~~** · 07-25-2017, 10:36 PM

What is their gedmatch ID?

**Voskos** · 07-25-2017, 10:42 PM

M578721

**~~Sikeliot~~** · 07-25-2017, 10:47 PM

Iron Age was around 1200-600 BC. This means that Armenians were once much more Northern shifted and this was quite recently.

**Percivalle** · 07-25-2017, 10:49 PM

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 36.22
2 West_Asian 34.76
3 East_Med 13.85
4 West_Med 7.49
5 Atlantic 7.37
6 Eastern_Euro 0.31

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tabassaran 25.8
2 Kumyk 27.41
3 Lezgin 27.91
4 Chechen 28.96
5 Ossetian 29.83
6 Kabardin 30.4
7 Balkar 30.59
8 Adygei 30.82
9 West_German 31.33
10 Italian_Abruzzo 31.53
11 North_Ossetian 31.81
12 Greek_Thessaly 31.83
13 Romanian 32.32
14 Turkish 32.35
15 Georgian 32.49
16 Central_Greek 32.5
17 Azeri 33.1
18 Serbian 33.27
19 Nogay 33.3
20 East_Sicilian 33.38

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51% Abhkasian + 49% West_Norwegian @ 16.49
2 53.7% Georgian + 46.3% West_Norwegian @ 16.59
3 50.5% Abhkasian + 49.5% Orcadian @ 17.09
4 53.2% Georgian + 46.8% Orcadian @ 17.12
5 50.9% Abhkasian + 49.1% Norwegian @ 17.5
6 53.7% Georgian + 46.3% Norwegian @ 17.56
7 54.1% West_German + 45.9% Abhkasian @ 17.58
8 51.3% West_German + 48.7% Georgian @ 17.74
9 51% Abhkasian + 49% Swedish @ 17.89
10 53.8% Georgian + 46.2% Swedish @ 17.93
11 57.1% Ossetian + 42.9% West_Norwegian @ 17.98
12 50.3% Abhkasian + 49.7% North_Dutch @ 18
13 53.2% Georgian + 46.8% North_Dutch @ 18.04
14 54.6% Georgian + 45.4% West_Scottish @ 18.38
15 51.6% Abhkasian + 48.4% West_Scottish @ 18.39
16 56.7% Ossetian + 43.3% Orcadian @ 18.41
17 51.9% Ossetian + 48.1% West_German @ 18.47
18 50.5% Abhkasian + 49.5% Southwest_English @ 18.47
19 53.4% Georgian + 46.6% Southwest_English @ 18.48
20 50.8% Abhkasian + 49.2% Danish @ 18.54

MDLP K16 Modern Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 41.5
2 Steppe 21.99
3 Neolithic 18.33
4 NorthEastEuropean 11.42
5 Indian 6.77

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kumyk (Stalskoe) 11.2
2 Greek (Macedonia) 11.61
3 Greek (Azov) 12.21
4 Turk (Istanbul) 12.32
5 Ava (Dagestan_Khunzakh) 12.44
6 Avar (Dagestan) 12.45
7 Turk (Turkey) 12.52
8 Tabasaran (Dagestan) 12.76
9 Dargin (Urkarah) 13.02
10 Greek (Athens) 13.11
11 Greek (Greece) 13.25
12 Avar (Dagestan_Gergebil) 13.36
13 Lak (Dagestan) 13.45
14 Circassian (Circassia) 13.53
15 Kabardin (Kabardino-Balkaria) 13.59
16 Greek (Peloponnes) 14.06
17 Greek (Greece) 14.11
18 Lezgin (Dagestan) 14.12
19 Greek (Thessaloniki) 14.34
20 Avar (Dagestan_Shangoda) 14.34

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.3% Abkhazian_Lykhny (Lykhny) + 38.7% English (Cornwall) @ 3.76
2 56.3% Abkhazian (Gudauta) + 43.7% Irish (Cork_Kerry) @ 3.84
3 60.7% Abkhazian_Lykhny (Lykhny) + 39.3% French (France) @ 3.86
4 59.3% Abkhazian_Lykhny (Lykhny) + 40.7% English (England) @ 3.87
5 60.1% Abkhazian_Lykhny (Lykhny) + 39.9% Irish (Cork_Kerry) @ 3.87
6 55.4% Abkhazian (Gudauta) + 44.6% English (England) @ 3.94
7 61.9% Chechen (Chechnya) + 38.1% Spanish (Cataluna) @ 3.96
8 55% Georgian (Megrelia) + 45% Irish (Cork_Kerry) @ 3.99
9 58.1% Abkhazian (Gudauta) + 41.9% Scottish (Argyll_bute) @ 3.99
10 60.5% Abkhazian_Lykhny (Lykhny) + 39.5% Irish (Connacht) @ 4.02
11 59.5% Abkhazian_Lykhny (Lykhny) + 40.5% Scottish (Grampian) @ 4.03
12 58.9% Abkhazian (Gudauta) + 41.1% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) @ 4.05
13 56.2% Georgian (Megrelia) + 43.8% English (Cornwall) @ 4.05
14 56.6% Abkhazian (Gudauta) + 43.4% Irish (Connacht) @ 4.06
15 54.2% Georgian (Megrelia) + 45.8% English (England) @ 4.09
16 58.8% Chechen (Chechnya) + 41.2% Spanish (Baleares) @ 4.12
17 59.2% Abkhazian_Lykhny (Lykhny) + 40.8% Scottish (Fife) @ 4.14
18 56.6% Abkhazian (Gudauta) + 43.4% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) @ 4.15
19 58.4% Abkhazian_Lykhny (Lykhny) + 41.6% German (Germany) @ 4.18
20 60.5% Abkhazian_Lykhny (Lykhny) + 39.5% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) @ 4.19

Dodecad K12b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 32.97
2 Gedrosia 26.06
3 North_European 25.21
4 Atlantic_Med 14.6
5 South_Asian 1.17

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lezgins (Behar) 17.68
2 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 19.04
3 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 21.53
4 Chechens (Yunusbayev) 21.87
5 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 22.63
6 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 23.48
7 Iranian (Dodecad) 24.04
8 Turks (Behar) 24.44
9 Turkish (Dodecad) 24.45
10 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 24.55
11 Kurd (Dodecad) 24.8
12 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 25.03
13 Iranians (Behar) 25.68
14 Adygei (HGDP) 25.94
15 Romanians (Behar) 26.03
16 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 26.72
17 Greek (Dodecad) 26.81
18 O_Italian (Dodecad) 26.92
19 Balkars (Yunusbayev) 27.39
20 North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) 27.68

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77.5% Lezgins (Behar) + 22.5% Pais_Vasco (1000Genomes) @ 4.06
2 78.9% Lezgins (Behar) + 21.1% French_Basque (HGDP) @ 4.69
3 72.2% Lezgins (Behar) + 27.8% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 4.92
4 70.4% Lezgins (Behar) + 29.6% French (HGDP) @ 5.18
5 72.1% Lezgins (Behar) + 27.9% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 5.19
6 73.5% Lezgins (Behar) + 26.5% Cantabria (1000Genomes) @ 5.28
7 73.4% Lezgins (Behar) + 26.6% Valencia (1000Genomes) @ 5.28
8 73.9% Lezgins (Behar) + 26.1% Aragon (1000Genomes) @ 5.31
9 72.4% Lezgins (Behar) + 27.6% British (Dodecad) @ 5.37
10 72.9% Lezgins (Behar) + 27.1% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 5.4
11 73.4% Lezgins (Behar) + 26.6% Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) @ 5.43
12 72.6% Lezgins (Behar) + 27.4% Spaniards (Behar) @ 5.44
13 72.8% Lezgins (Behar) + 27.2% Irish (Dodecad) @ 5.64
14 71.2% Lezgins (Behar) + 28.8% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 5.66
15 72.2% Lezgins (Behar) + 27.8% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 5.72
16 71.7% Lezgins (Behar) + 28.3% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 5.74
17 72.8% Lezgins (Behar) + 27.2% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 5.75
18 72.6% Lezgins (Behar) + 27.4% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 5.76
19 71.9% Lezgins (Behar) + 28.1% English (Dodecad) @ 5.87
20 71.5% Lezgins (Behar) + 28.5% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 5.9

HarappaWorld Oracle results

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 30.81
2 Baloch 27.84
3 NE-Euro 24.3
4 Mediterranean 12.45
5 SW-Asian 2.97
6 S-Indian 1.63

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 stalskoe (xing) 13.63
2 urkarah (xing) 16.32
3 tajik (yunusbayev) 17.53
4 lezgin (behar) 18.53
5 turkmen (yunusbayev) 19.21
6 kumyk (yunusbayev) 20.38
7 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 20.46
8 nogai (yunusbayev) 21.67
9 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 22.12
10 iranian (harappa) 22.15
11 chechen (yunusbayev) 22.17
12 kurd (harappa) 23.15
13 turkish (harappa) 23.16
14 azeri (harappa) 23.25
15 iranian (behar) 23.84
16 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 23.91
17 turk (behar) 24.1
18 kurd (yunusbayev) 24.12
19 kurd (xing) 24.64
20 romanian-b (behar) 24.95

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77.5% urkarah (xing) + 22.5% spain-basc (henn2012) @ 5.93
2 78.1% urkarah (xing) + 21.9% basque (hgdp) @ 5.99
3 73.3% urkarah (xing) + 26.7% spaniard (1000genomes) @ 6.7
4 75.3% lezgin (behar) + 24.7% spain-basc (henn2012) @ 6.85
5 75.9% lezgin (behar) + 24.1% basque (hgdp) @ 7.03
6 68.6% lezgin (behar) + 31.4% french (hgdp) @ 7.39
7 71.2% lezgin (behar) + 28.8% british (1000genomes) @ 7.6
8 70.6% lezgin (behar) + 29.4% spaniard (1000genomes) @ 7.63
9 72% lezgin (behar) + 28% orcadian (hgdp) @ 7.64
10 72.2% urkarah (xing) + 27.8% french (hgdp) @ 7.86
11 70.7% lezgin (behar) + 29.3% utahn-white (1000genomes) @ 7.9
12 82.5% stalskoe (xing) + 17.5% spain-basc (henn2012) @ 7.99
13 83% stalskoe (xing) + 17% basque (hgdp) @ 8.04
14 79.8% stalskoe (xing) + 20.2% orcadian (hgdp) @ 8.07
15 79.2% stalskoe (xing) + 20.8% british (1000genomes) @ 8.14
16 67.8% iranian (harappa) + 32.2% orcadian (hgdp) @ 8.26
17 77.3% stalskoe (xing) + 22.7% french (hgdp) @ 8.29
18 78.9% stalskoe (xing) + 21.1% utahn-white (1000genomes) @ 8.36
19 65.2% kurd (xing) + 34.8% orcadian (hgdp) @ 8.41
20 66.7% iranian (harappa) + 33.3% utahn-white (hapmap) @ 8.45