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    Quote Originally Posted by zhaoyun View Post
    It will end America's sole superpower status, which is already questionable at this point. If you disagree, you're not paying attention.
    I'm paying attention, and disagree. Not possible in your mind, but it happened.

    I also don't understand what the end goal and what benefits there are for the US to be involved in such carnage.
    Who knows? We can and do speculate about oil, the petrodollar, Israel etc. but can we be sure? I'm not going to pretend that the destruction of other countries was essential. They do it anyway, whether we understand why or not.

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    This is legacy of George W.Bush who actually strengthened Iran. Let's not forget he also allowed Iranian proxies to basically take control of Iraq. Trump is just saying that, but in reality Iran is just controlled opposition. Because it was the Anglo-Americans who have imposed the Mullahs in 1979. The Americans and British helped bring down the Shah, and even refused refuge from him and it was only Egypt that took him in. Iran will not to be touched, it will only be used a propaganda means
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    I know you guys want the best for Iran and I understand. But looking at the current situation, we have to face reality. Iran isn't going to last despite how "sophisticated" or how big the nation is. Look at the nations around Iran, they're all fucked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabatea1 View Post
    This is legacy of George W.Bush who actually strengthened Iran. Let's not forget he also allowed Iranian proxies to basically take control of Iraq. Trump is just saying that, but in reality Iran is just controlled opposition. Because it was the Anglo-Americans who have imposed the Mullahs in 1979. The Americans and British helped bring down the Shah, and even refused refuge from him and it was only Egypt that took him in. Iran will not to be touched, it will only be used a propaganda means
    You need to look at the history of puppet rulers and their imperial masters more closely. Iran is a good example. The masters instal their puppets, then remove them later when circumstances change (usually because they go rogue). It seems it happened to two Shahs, so why not the mullahs? The controlled opposition theory has merit, but when it comes to Iran, we're dealing with far more than a few off-the-cuff remarks from Trump.

    Quote Originally Posted by Babak View Post
    I know you guys want the best for Iran and I understand. But looking at the current situation, we have to face reality. Iran isn't going to last despite how "sophisticated" or how big the nation is. Look at the nations around Iran, they're all fucked.
    The problem is, too many people have fallen for the notion of Iranian exceptionalism - the idea that, somehow, Iran is too big for America to tackle and will be spared when everyone else who stood up to America was destroyed. It's just mullah and Marxist propaganda. To admit the truth does not mean one wants to see the destruction of Iran. It's about honesty.

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    USA just needs to find an enemy to keep money flow and armament business going .. this keeps jobs afoot. Afghanistan 1% of NATO power and still struggling to overcome it

    There has been over 15,000 fatalities and over 900,000 registered wounded (meaning out of permanent action) in Iraq and Afghanistan

    I am just wondering whether any hearts and minds have been captured as it seems to me these IED's in asymmetric unconventional warfare by guerrillas is proving too tough for NATO.
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