Page 1 of 13 1234511 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 123

Thread: Cana'anite DNA

  1. #1
    Johannes factotum
    Apricity Funding Member
    "Friend of Apricity"

    Longbowman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Last Online
    07-26-2023 @ 01:37 PM
    Location
    Holy Terra
    Meta-Ethnicity
    Jewish
    Ethnicity
    440/512 Ashkenazi, 41/512 Sephardic, 31/512 Musta'arabi, minor English, Portuguese & Spanish
    Ancestry
    67% Middle Eastern Neolithic, 20% European Mesolithic, 10% Eurasian Invasion, 2% Siberian, 1% Africa
    Country
    Great Britain
    Region
    England
    Y-DNA
    E-FT333743
    mtDNA
    K1a1b1a
    Taxonomy
    Atlanto-Med
    Politics
    Campanilismo
    Hero
    Bartolomé de las Casas
    Religion
    Awaiting the return of King Arthur
    Age
    27
    Gender
    Posts
    33,442
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 37,278
    Given: 39,691

    23 Not allowed!

    Default Cana'anite DNA

    From a paper released today.

    http://www.cell.com/ajhg/fulltext/S0002-9297(17)30276-8

    5 Canaanite individuals from Israel, 1700BC. 2 males, 3 females.

    They compared them autosomally to Lebanese people and found 91% similarity, which is a little surprising; also that they cluster with EBA people from Jordan, showing genetic continuity in the region for thousands of years, etc. Authors hypothesise that J came to the Levant alongside Iran_Chalcolithic type ancestry as it was absent before that (ie, Natufians were E).

    Sidon_BA (ancient Lebanon) was found to be closer to Assyrians, MENA Jews and even Sephardim than Lebanese Muslims, however.

    YDNA
    1x J1-P58
    1x J2-M12

    the former very common amongst Jews, Arabs, Levantines, the latter found over the MENA and Albania too.

    MTDNA
    1x N1a3a
    1x HV1b1
    1x K1a2
    1x R2
    1x H1bc

    Very varied, nothing out of the ordinary for a MENA group however.
    Who is rich? He who is happy with what he has - Simeon ben Zoma, Ethics of the Fathers, Talmud, Avot 4:1

    Quote Originally Posted by zhaoyun View Post
    I'll say this once and I don't expect you to ever have me fucking repeat this again.

    Longbowman isn't just a member, he's a lifestyle.
    I live here. I also live here.

    Europeans worldwide * Longbowman's family on 23andme * Classify Longbowman * Ask Longbowman anything

  2. #2
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Last Online
    02-13-2024 @ 02:18 PM
    Location
    In the absence of omnipresent
    Ethnicity
    Brazilian
    Ancestry
    Diverse
    Country
    Brazil
    Region
    Minas Gerais
    Taxonomy
    North Pontid-Iranid-Faelid
    Politics
    Pragmathic
    Gender
    Posts
    8,453
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 4,154
    Given: 1,061

    0 Not allowed!

    Default

    Cohen'nanites.

  3. #3
    Johannes factotum
    Apricity Funding Member
    "Friend of Apricity"

    Longbowman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Last Online
    07-26-2023 @ 01:37 PM
    Location
    Holy Terra
    Meta-Ethnicity
    Jewish
    Ethnicity
    440/512 Ashkenazi, 41/512 Sephardic, 31/512 Musta'arabi, minor English, Portuguese & Spanish
    Ancestry
    67% Middle Eastern Neolithic, 20% European Mesolithic, 10% Eurasian Invasion, 2% Siberian, 1% Africa
    Country
    Great Britain
    Region
    England
    Y-DNA
    E-FT333743
    mtDNA
    K1a1b1a
    Taxonomy
    Atlanto-Med
    Politics
    Campanilismo
    Hero
    Bartolomé de las Casas
    Religion
    Awaiting the return of King Arthur
    Age
    27
    Gender
    Posts
    33,442
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 37,278
    Given: 39,691

    3 Not allowed!

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrificed Ram View Post
    Cohen'nanites.
    J1-P58 is found at much higher frequencies amongst certain Arab groups than Cohanim, which are a bottlenecked population anyhow (most Cohen J1-p58 comes from one individual who lived 2600 years ago). Three quarters of marsh arabs have it. Anyhow this does prove J1-P58 was in Israel before it was Israel.

    Seems today's Lebs can be modelled (doesn't mean they are) as 93% Canaanite, 7% Steppe. Christian Lebs only though.
    Who is rich? He who is happy with what he has - Simeon ben Zoma, Ethics of the Fathers, Talmud, Avot 4:1

    Quote Originally Posted by zhaoyun View Post
    I'll say this once and I don't expect you to ever have me fucking repeat this again.

    Longbowman isn't just a member, he's a lifestyle.
    I live here. I also live here.

    Europeans worldwide * Longbowman's family on 23andme * Classify Longbowman * Ask Longbowman anything

  4. #4
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Last Online
    02-13-2024 @ 02:18 PM
    Location
    In the absence of omnipresent
    Ethnicity
    Brazilian
    Ancestry
    Diverse
    Country
    Brazil
    Region
    Minas Gerais
    Taxonomy
    North Pontid-Iranid-Faelid
    Politics
    Pragmathic
    Gender
    Posts
    8,453
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 4,154
    Given: 1,061

    3 Not allowed!

    Default

    It just means canaanites were already an intrusion, they weren't just a continuum of natufians. Natufians were E-Z830 yDNA.

  5. #5
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Last Online
    @
    Country
    United States
    Region
    District of Columbia
    mtDNA
    H
    Taxonomy
    Mediterranean
    Politics
    Classic liberal
    Religion
    Atheist
    Gender
    Posts
    107,421
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 40,067
    Given: 10,740

    1 Not allowed!

    Default

    Where is their Gedmatch ID?

  6. #6
    Johannes factotum
    Apricity Funding Member
    "Friend of Apricity"

    Longbowman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Last Online
    07-26-2023 @ 01:37 PM
    Location
    Holy Terra
    Meta-Ethnicity
    Jewish
    Ethnicity
    440/512 Ashkenazi, 41/512 Sephardic, 31/512 Musta'arabi, minor English, Portuguese & Spanish
    Ancestry
    67% Middle Eastern Neolithic, 20% European Mesolithic, 10% Eurasian Invasion, 2% Siberian, 1% Africa
    Country
    Great Britain
    Region
    England
    Y-DNA
    E-FT333743
    mtDNA
    K1a1b1a
    Taxonomy
    Atlanto-Med
    Politics
    Campanilismo
    Hero
    Bartolomé de las Casas
    Religion
    Awaiting the return of King Arthur
    Age
    27
    Gender
    Posts
    33,442
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 37,278
    Given: 39,691

    2 Not allowed!

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrificed Ram View Post
    It just means canaanites were already an intrusion, they weren't just a continuum of natufians. Natufians were E-Z830 yDNA.
    Probably means E-Z830 was pre-Semitic.
    Who is rich? He who is happy with what he has - Simeon ben Zoma, Ethics of the Fathers, Talmud, Avot 4:1

    Quote Originally Posted by zhaoyun View Post
    I'll say this once and I don't expect you to ever have me fucking repeat this again.

    Longbowman isn't just a member, he's a lifestyle.
    I live here. I also live here.

    Europeans worldwide * Longbowman's family on 23andme * Classify Longbowman * Ask Longbowman anything

  7. #7
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Last Online
    02-13-2024 @ 02:18 PM
    Location
    In the absence of omnipresent
    Ethnicity
    Brazilian
    Ancestry
    Diverse
    Country
    Brazil
    Region
    Minas Gerais
    Taxonomy
    North Pontid-Iranid-Faelid
    Politics
    Pragmathic
    Gender
    Posts
    8,453
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 4,154
    Given: 1,061

    0 Not allowed!

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    Probably means E-Z830 was pre-Semitic.
    Were Semitics calcolithics from Iran?

  8. #8
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Last Online
    12-17-2017 @ 02:50 PM
    Meta-Ethnicity
    Euro-Semitic
    Ethnicity
    Ashkenazi Jewish
    Ancestry
    Austria and Poland, stemming originally from the Rhineland, and ultimately the Levant
    Country
    Great Britain
    Y-DNA
    I1
    mtDNA
    N1b2
    Taxonomy
    Atlanto-Armenoid
    Politics
    Paleolibertarianism
    Hero
    Friedrich Nietzsche
    Religion
    Spinozism
    Gender
    Posts
    3,775
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1,508
    Given: 1,329

    0 Not allowed!

    Default

    Are there GEDmatches for any ancient DNA?

  9. #9
    Banned
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Last Online
    08-29-2021 @ 09:31 PM
    Ethnicity
    Japhethite: Indoeuropean. Sarmatian. Poldeutsch.
    Ancestry
    Rzeczpospolita - the only Republic which was a Kingdom.
    Country
    Austria
    Y-DNA
    Singen.
    Religion
    Christian Yahwism aka Arianism.
    Gender
    Posts
    14,906
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 8,490
    Given: 10,741

    1 Not allowed!

    Default

    Ergo not originals.

    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    Probably means E-Z830 was pre-Semitic.
    Finally you got it.
    Better late, than at all.

  10. #10
    Johannes factotum
    Apricity Funding Member
    "Friend of Apricity"

    Longbowman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Last Online
    07-26-2023 @ 01:37 PM
    Location
    Holy Terra
    Meta-Ethnicity
    Jewish
    Ethnicity
    440/512 Ashkenazi, 41/512 Sephardic, 31/512 Musta'arabi, minor English, Portuguese & Spanish
    Ancestry
    67% Middle Eastern Neolithic, 20% European Mesolithic, 10% Eurasian Invasion, 2% Siberian, 1% Africa
    Country
    Great Britain
    Region
    England
    Y-DNA
    E-FT333743
    mtDNA
    K1a1b1a
    Taxonomy
    Atlanto-Med
    Politics
    Campanilismo
    Hero
    Bartolomé de las Casas
    Religion
    Awaiting the return of King Arthur
    Age
    27
    Gender
    Posts
    33,442
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 37,278
    Given: 39,691

    2 Not allowed!

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Rethel of Retheley View Post
    Finally you got it.
    Better late, than at all.
    Of course, this would assume that the Bible is mostly fictional, as we have here Canaanites who are J1-P58!
    Who is rich? He who is happy with what he has - Simeon ben Zoma, Ethics of the Fathers, Talmud, Avot 4:1

    Quote Originally Posted by zhaoyun View Post
    I'll say this once and I don't expect you to ever have me fucking repeat this again.

    Longbowman isn't just a member, he's a lifestyle.
    I live here. I also live here.

    Europeans worldwide * Longbowman's family on 23andme * Classify Longbowman * Ask Longbowman anything

Page 1 of 13 1234511 ... LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Classify Lorik Cana and Atdhe Nuhiu
    By Panopticon in forum Taxonomy
    Replies: 45
    Last Post: 05-07-2021, 02:47 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •