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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamlet View Post
    12th century??????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????

    I know my fair share of Greek history mate, I've never denied the HUGE impact of the Greeks on the planet. Just not recently.
    Greek history does not end with Ancient Greece. Byzantium was the most advanced state in the world, for more than 1000 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wvwvw View Post
    Greek history does not end with Ancient Greece. Byzantium was the most advanced state in the world, for more than 1000 years.
    That is a questionable claim in and of itself, but forgetting that, dont try and change what you originally said laddie - you said that the Greeks dominated the world until the 12th century. I don't know whether to just laugh or pity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamlet View Post
    That is a questionable claim in and of itself, but forgetting that, dont try and change what you originally said laddie - you said that the Greeks dominated the world until the 12th century. I don't know whether to just laugh or pity
    You are cheating

    She didn't say this

    Another user did

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamlet View Post
    That is a questionable claim in and of itself, but forgetting that, dont try and change what you originally said laddie - you said that the Greeks dominated the world until the 12th century. I don't know whether to just laugh or pity
    The did up until the Crusaders. That's not an exaggeration. Byzantiun was the uncontested superpower of the known world until then. Note that most inventions in the west begin after the fall of Byzantines. (including the discovery of America)

    When most of Europe was living in squalor the Byzantine Empire was at its cultural height. Literacy was very high, the rest of Europe was only able to reach that rate of literacy around the 18th century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cybernautic View Post
    You are cheating

    She didn't say this

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    My bad, I thought she did

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    Quote Originally Posted by wvwvw View Post
    Greek history does not end with Ancient Greece. Byzantium was the most advanced state in the world, for more than 1000 years.
    It was an Roman Empire and your country for almost half of the existence of the Eastern part of this Empire was not even part of it.
    All nations who were part of this Empire have the right to claim the legacy of it.

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    Byzantium is 16th century term.

    Roman Empire was always called Roman Empire, it was just divided into administrative regions.

    There were 4 x Roman Empires during the Emperor Diocletian.

    Modern day Bosnia, Serbia, Macedonia, Epirus and Thessaly were one of four and ruled by one of four co-Emperors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laberia View Post
    It was an Roman Empire and your country for almost half of the existence of the Eastern part of this Empire was not even part of it.
    All nations who were part of this Empire have the right to claim the legacy of it.
    Specify what period you are talking about.



    At first many nations were part of the Empire, which at its heart was Greek and a continuation of the Empire of Alexander. But gradually it became the medieval state of Greece. If the Eastern Roman Empire was truly as multiethnic or multicultural as you state, then Symeon should have become emperor.

    The Byzantine Empire was not a multicultural civilization in fact it was a Greek empire with Greco-Roman institutions (including the ethno-religious Greek institution known as the Greek Orthodox Church).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Byzantium is 16th century term.

    Roman Empire was always called Roman Empire, it was just divided into administrative regions.

    There were 4 x Roman Empires during the Emperor Diocletian.

    Modern day Bosnia, Serbia, Macedonia, Epirus and Thessaly were one of four and ruled by one of four co-Emperors.
    Again it's important to specify the period you are talking about. Yes the Roman Empire was called Roman but it was a Greco-Roman Empire and included the Eastern part of the Empire which was the empire created by Alexander the Great and Philip II, and it was its Greek culture which kept it together. Those lands had Greek populations since Mycenaean and Minoan times, including Asia-Minor, Syria, Palestine and Egypt. Who do you think Sarapis was and why do you thing the Egyptians worshiped him as one of their Gods and kings.

    The Eastern Roman empire was always considered to be a Greek empire. Its people, language, culture and religion was always Greek. Even the primary language of the Roman empire, the lingua franka was Greek, and the eastern part of it split from the west along ethnic Greek lines long before Constantine.

    The old Roman empire split because the Pope represented the Italians and the Ecumenical Patriarch represented the Greeks and neither wanted the other ruling over them. Thus the east went to the Greeks since the Greeks had ruled the east for 1000 years and the west went to the Italians. The Agia Sofia for example, the biggest dome in the world at the time, was a Greek Orthodox Cathedral not Roman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamlet View Post
    12th century??????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????

    I know my fair share of Greek history mate, I've never denied the HUGE impact of the Greeks on the planet. Just not recently.
    12th century, when the byzantine empire ruled everything in terms of science, arts, philosophy, military technology etc, is too recent, and if you are interested in even more recent Greek achievements you can open another thread about them

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