Athenian Greek GEDmatch: a good example of pre-Slavic mainland Greeks?

[Sikeliot]

I think Germans and Swedes score around 35%-40% Baltic so it is irrelevant to call them Slavic either.

To this day, Im still trying to find Greeks with heavy East Euro admixture from the DNA tests (its usually Central European)

There was one posted on Anthrogenica with 26% East Euro, an Ancestry.com result. I can show you if you want to see.

[Dimitri159]

This person is even further south plotting than Peloponnesians.

I would wonder if they have some islander ancestry. But either way, I do think their result is close to what the Greeks who settled in southern Italy would have been like, which explains why the more Greek areas do have a small push toward Balto-Slavic peoples.

Greek Peloponnese clusters are more south-shifted than north/Balkan-shifted…

But you can definitely see the difference between them and someone with much more Slavic (most mainlanders, even Peloponnesians).

Dude, no. Peloponnese Greeks are not Slavic influenced like Northern and Central Greeks are.

[Dimitri159]

The whole talk is based on an assumption ( that everybody takes for granted - even though there is no evidence to support it) that at some point Sicily and Greece were genetically one and the same, and then something happened to Greece that shifted the population to the northeast... so we can use Sicilians as a reference about how the preSlavic Greeks were.... This is an obsession and there is no real argument to support it.

There actually are real arguments to support it. There are always things to consider.

For example, my YiaYia’s maiden name (from Thessaloniki) was “Zlat”oudis, which clearly hints some Slavic etymology for some Greek-Macedonian surnames.
Furthermore, it’s a fact that people from northern Greek regions had a lot more contact with foreign populations from the north of them. At one point there were a lot of Slavs (Bulgarians primarily) inhabiting areas of Thrace and Central Macedonia along with Greeks, not to mention some smaller ethnic groups, such as the Vlachs (genetically more Romanian) who were quickly integrated as fellow Greeks. Southern Greeks remained more isolated from foreign influence as opposed to northern Greeks, ESPECIALLY the islanders..

If you take a look at some GEDMatch results, you will see a clear-cut difference between the Southern Greeks who are more south-shifted and the Northern Greeks who are more north-shifted.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Greek Peloponnese clusters are more south-shifted than north/Balkan-shifted… Dude, no. Peloponnese Greeks are not Slavic influenced like Northern and Central Greeks.

You're not quoting a ghost. Sikeliot, the user who banned himself almost 3 years ago, is still extremely active on Reddit and is redpilling the masses like there's no tomorrow about the Slavicness of Greeks and the Levantinity of Southern Italians XD

https://www.reddit.com/user/OddGuidance907

[Dimitri159]

You're not quoting a ghost. Sikeliot, the user who banned himself almost 3 years ago, is still extremely active on Reddit and is redpilling the masses like there's no tomorrow about the Slavicness of Greeks and the Levantinity of Southern Italians XD

https://www.reddit.com/user/OddGuidance907

Oh trust me, I bet. But I definitely wouldn’t consider it a redpill, he couldn’t be more wrong. He’s probably another Greek who wants to make himself seem more Northern European lmfao.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Oh trust me, I bet. But I definitely wouldn’t consider it a redpill, he couldn’t be more wrong. He’s probably another Greek who wants to make himself seem more Northern European lmfao.

I was being ironic. He's not Greek, he's of Polish, Sicilian, Portuguese and then I can't remember what else descent.

[Dimitri159]

I was being ironic. He's not Greek, he's of Polish, Sicilian, Portuguese and then I can't remember what else descent.

Yeah I thought so, just making sure ��. And wow, this information ruins his credibility even more!

I can’t remember, did he ever claim Greek heritage??

[Smitty]

Yeah I thought so, just making sure ��. And wow, this information ruins his credibility even more!

I can’t remember, did he ever claim Greek heritage??

I believe he claimed a 3x great-grandparent or something was Greek, via Sicily. How that happened, I do not know.

[Smitty]

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