Mycenaean sample Gedmatch (c. 1600–1100 BC)

**Coolguy1** · 08-04-2017, 10:17 PM

One of the samples that LukaszM posted on anthrogenica

Sample 19041

World9 Oracle results:

Kit M866617

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 40.5
2 Southern 38.93
3 Caucasus_Gedrosia 20.44
4 African 0.13

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sicilian (Dodecad) 5.58
2 C_Italian (Dodecad) 5.65
3 Ashkenazy_Jews 6.44
4 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 6.53
5 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 6.83
6 Greek (Dodecad) 6.96
7 S_Italian (Dodecad) 7.24
8 O_Italian (Dodecad) 8.49
9 Tuscan (HGDP) 10.28
10 TSI30 (Metspalu) 11.1
11 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 12.95
12 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 13.8
13 North_Italian (HGDP) 18.4
14 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 19.06
15 N_Italian (Dodecad) 19.12
16 Romanians (Behar) 19.68
17 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 19.87
18 Canarias (1000 Genomes) 20.53
19 Murcia (1000 Genomes) 21.39
20 Baleares (1000 Genomes) 22.73

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.9% Sardinian + 34.1% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.7
2 64.2% Sardinian + 35.8% Georgians (Behar) @ 0.76
3 57.4% Cataluna (1000 Genomes) + 42.6% Samaritians (Behar) @ 1.01
4 58.5% Sardinian + 41.5% Armenians (Behar) @ 1.03
5 62.9% Baleares (1000 Genomes) + 37.1% Samaritians (Behar) @ 1.09
6 77.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 22.1% Sardinian @ 1.15
7 76.1% S_Italian (Dodecad) + 23.9% Sardinian @ 1.33
8 59.6% Spaniards (Behar) + 40.4% Samaritians (Behar) @ 1.45
9 58.5% Valencia (1000 Genomes) + 41.5% Samaritians (Behar) @ 1.47
10 67.7% North_Italian (HGDP) + 32.3% Samaritians (Behar) @ 1.54
11 80.1% TSI30 (Metspalu) + 19.9% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 1.63
12 74.6% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 25.4% French_Basque @ 1.71
13 58.3% Spanish (Dodecad) + 41.7% Samaritians (Behar) @ 1.72
14 74.5% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 25.5% Pais_Vasco (1000 Genomes) @ 1.74
15 69.3% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 30.7% Aragon (1000 Genomes) @ 1.76
16 81.1% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 18.9% Sardinian @ 1.77
17 56.4% Cantabria (1000 Genomes) + 43.6% Samaritians (Behar) @ 1.8
18 81.3% Tuscan (HGDP) + 18.7% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 1.81
19 78.6% Ashkenazy_Jews + 21.4% Sardinian @ 1.83
20 69.8% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 30.2% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 1.89

ncient Eurasia K6 Oracle results:

gedrosia K6 Oracle

Kit M866617

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Natufian 51.47
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 30.71
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 17.72
4 Sub_Saharan 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_South 3.18
2 Sicilian 4.01
3 Jew_Ashkenazi 4.9
4 Greek 5.21
5 Albanian 5.86
6 Jew_Moroccan 8.27
7 Jew_Libyan 9.76
8 Jew_Tunisian 10.43
9 Bulgarian 11.03
10 Romanian 12.48
11 Cypriot 12.85
12 Armenia_ChL 13.01
13 Spanish 15.51
14 Sardinian 16.15
15 Croatian 16.25
16 Turkish 16.58
17 Druze 17.46
18 Lebanese 17.8
19 French 18.86
20 Jordanian 19.06

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.9% Anatolia_N + 16.1% AG2 @ 0.19
2 83.9% Anatolia_N + 16.1% AG3 @ 0.19
3 83.9% Anatolia_N + 16.1% MA1 @ 0.19
4 87.8% Italian_South + 12.2% Europe_EN @ 1.07
5 58.7% Sardinian + 41.3% Georgian @ 1.18
6 87.4% Italian_South + 12.6% Anatolia_N @ 1.42
7 91.5% Albanian + 8.5% Levant_N @ 1.42
8 91.5% Albanian + 8.5% Natufian @ 1.42
9 85.1% Italian_South + 14.9% Sardinian @ 1.47
10 92.6% Greek + 7.4% Levant_N @ 1.81
11 92.6% Greek + 7.4% Natufian @ 1.81
12 63.6% Cypriot + 36.4% Basque @ 2.02
13 52.3% Europe_EN + 47.7% Lezgin @ 2.22
14 85% Bulgarian + 15% Levant_N @ 2.36
15 85% Bulgarian + 15% Natufian @ 2.36
16 67.7% Steppe_MLBA + 32.3% Levant_N @ 2.41
17 67.7% Steppe_MLBA + 32.3% Natufian @ 2.41
18 64.7% Sardinian + 35.3% Kurd_F @ 2.45
19 62.6% Armenia_ChL + 37.4% Europe_EN @ 2.51
20 50.4% Europe_EN + 49.6% Chechen @ 2.54

The modern calculators for this sample come out really wonky.

Edit: This was only made possible by LukaszM, I shouldn't have posted this without his permission. I will let him post the other samples.

**Ibericus** · 08-04-2017, 10:24 PM

PCA :

**Coolguy1** · 08-04-2017, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by Ibericus

PCA :

Its really interesting, because on the newer calculators they come up as not really being related to any population, can you make a gedrosia k6 and dodecad world9 plot?

**Ibericus** · 08-04-2017, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by Sorcelow

Its really interesting, because on the newer calculators they come up as not really being related to any population, can you make a gedrosia k6 and dodecad world9 plot?

World9 :

**Coolguy1** · 08-04-2017, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by Ibericus

World9 :

Sorry but do you mind plotting my results together?

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 43.89
2 Southern 29.14
3 Caucasus_Gedrosia 26.1
4 African 0.25
5 Amerindian 0.25
6 Siberian 0.19
7 South_Asian 0.18

and

Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 21.34
Ancestral_South_Eurasian -
East_Asian -
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 31.60
Natufian 46.59
Sub_Saharan 0.47
Oracle
Oracle-4

Spreadsheet

**Ibericus** · 08-04-2017, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by Sorcelow

Sorry but do you mind plotting my results together?

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 43.89
2 Southern 29.14
3 Caucasus_Gedrosia 26.1
4 African 0.25
5 Amerindian 0.25
6 Siberian 0.19
7 South_Asian 0.18

and

Population
Ancestral_North_Eurasian 21.34
Ancestral_South_Eurasian -
East_Asian -
West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 31.60
Natufian 46.59
Sub_Saharan 0.47
Oracle
Oracle-4

Spreadsheet

**Ibericus** · 08-04-2017, 10:57 PM

with my calculator for 2-way mixture for Eurogenes K15

81.0% Anatolia EN Tep003 + 19.0% Battle-Axe Nordic LN RISE97 @ 4.939
79.0% Anatolia EN Tep003 + 21.0% Battle-Axe Nordic LN RISE97 @ 5.063
81.0% Anatolia EN Tep003 + 19.0% Unetice I0047 @ 5.149
80.0% Anatolia EN Tep003 + 20.0% Unetice I0047 @ 5.162

without ancients :

66.0% IT_Benetutti + 34.0% Iraqi_Jews @ 8.696
65.0% IT_Benetutti + 35.0% Iraqi_Jews @ 8.709
68.0% IT_Benetutti + 32.0% Iraqi_Jews @ 8.836
60.0% IT_Benetutti + 40.0% Lebanese_Druze @ 8.978

**Insuperable** · 08-04-2017, 11:05 PM

Sikeliot is fapping.

**Peterski** · 08-05-2017, 12:06 AM

Lukasz uploaded also Crete_Armenoi (kit M293012).

Crete_Armenoi in Eurogenes K13:

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.1% Sardinian + 48.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 14.39
2 56.4% Sardinian + 43.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 14.57
3 54.5% Sardinian + 45.5% Polish @ 14.7
4 56.7% Sardinian + 43.3% Estonian_Polish @ 14.8
5 57.3% Sardinian + 42.7% Belorussian @ 14.81
6 54.3% Croatian + 45.7% Sardinian @ 14.85
7 60% Sardinian + 40% East_Finnish @ 15
8 60% Sardinian + 40% Lithuanian @ 15.01
9 56.2% Moldavian + 43.8% Sardinian @ 15.04
10 56.6% Sardinian + 43.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 15.11

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Sardinian +50% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 15.480942

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% East_German +25% Moroccan +25% Sardinian @ 14.180481

Using 4 populations approximation:

1 Lithuanian + Moroccan + Sardinian + Southwest_French @ 12.942441
2 Lithuanian + Moroccan + Sardinian + Spanish_Galicia @ 12.974084
3 French_Basque + Lithuanian + Sardinian + Saudi @ 12.988867
4 Moroccan + Russian_Smolensk + Sardinian + Southwest_French @ 13.115956
5 Lithuanian + Moroccan + Sardinian + Spanish_Cantabria @ 13.121005
6 Moroccan + Russian_Smolensk + Sardinian + Spanish_Galicia @ 13.215809
7 Estonian_Polish + Moroccan + Sardinian + Southwest_French @ 13.227383
8 Erzya + Moroccan + Sardinian + Southwest_French @ 13.291509
9 Lithuanian + Moroccan + Sardinian + Spanish_Extremadura @ 13.297136
10 Estonian_Polish + Moroccan + Sardinian + Spanish_Galicia @ 13.321469

Crete_Armenoi could be ethnically Dorian.

It postdates Dorian infiltration of Crete.

**~~blondbeast~~** · 08-05-2017, 12:31 AM

Originally Posted by Litvin

Lukasz uploaded also Crete_Armenoi (kit M293012).

It postdates Dorian infiltration of Crete.

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Kit M293012

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 30.9
2 North_Atlantic 23.47
3 Baltic 18.78
4 Red_Sea 16.18
5 East_Med 9.17
6 West_Asian 1.49

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Galicia 18.77

Davidski's calculator is out dated. This is better.

Dorians were Central Europeans

puntDNAL K10 Ancient Oracle

Kit M293012

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 WHG 39.01
2 CHG 32.19
3 ENF 27.62
4 Oceanian 1.18

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 7.33
2 Croatian 8.54
3 Bulgarian 8.6
4 Irish 9.81
5 German_South 10.46
6 Utahn_white 10.51
7 English_South 11.88
8 German_North 11.94
9 French 12.58
10 Czech 13.54
11 Ukrainian 14.66
12 Scottish_West 14.83
13 Albanian 14.84
14 Greek 14.84
15 Italian_North 15.62
16 Norwegian 17.32
17 Tuscan 17.59
18 Mordovian 18.09
19 Icelandic 18.53
20 Italian_South 18.97

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.2% German_North + 23.8% Georgian @ 1.59
2 76.3% English_South + 23.7% Georgian @ 1.66
3 79.7% Irish + 20.3% Georgian @ 1.85
4 73.9% Czech + 26.1% Georgian @ 1.86
5 78.9% Utahn_white + 21.1% Abkhasian @ 1.88
6 71.2% Utahn_white + 28.8% Kumyk @ 1.91
7 84.3% Hungarian + 15.7% Georgian @ 1.99
8 72.1% Scottish_West + 27.9% Georgian @ 2
9 78.6% Utahn_white + 21.4% Georgian @ 2
10 73.9% German_South + 26.1% Lezgin @ 2.02
11 76.8% English_South + 23.2% Abkhasian @ 2.04
12 67.3% Icelandic + 32.7% Georgian @ 2.18
13 84.7% Hungarian + 15.3% Abkhasian @ 2.21
14 80.2% Irish + 19.8% Abkhasian @ 2.22
15 77.9% Croatian + 22.1% Lezgin @ 2.29
16 76.8% German_North + 23.2% Abkhasian @ 2.36
17 66.5% Norwegian + 33.5% Turkish_Trabzon @ 2.37
18 74.5% German_North + 25.5% Turkish_Trabzon @ 2.38
19 63.1% Lithuanian + 36.9% Iraqi_Jew @ 2.4
20 78.7% Hungarian + 21.3% Kumyk @ 2.43

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Icelandic +50% Kumyk @ 5.517088

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% German_North +25% English_South +25% Georgian @ 1.368122

Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 Norwegian + German_North + German_South + Georgian @ 1.032991
2 Icelandic + German_North + German_South + Georgian @ 1.154692
3 Norwegian + Utahn_white + Utahn_white + Georgian @ 1.155867
4 Icelandic + German_North + Croatian + Georgian @ 1.169486
5 Scottish_West + German_North + Utahn_white + Georgian @ 1.192288
6 Lithuanian + German_South + French + Georgian @ 1.223833
7 Lithuanian + German_North + Italian_North + Georgian @ 1.285304
8 Czech + German_North + Utahn_white + Georgian @ 1.288352
9 Norwegian + German_North + Croatian + Georgian @ 1.305203
10 Norwegian + German_North + Utahn_white + Georgian @ 1.317414
11 Lithuanian + Croatian + French + Georgian @ 1.325708
12 Czech + German_North + English_South + Georgian @ 1.325785
13 Scottish_West + German_North + German_South + Georgian @ 1.329037
14 Icelandic + Utahn_white + Utahn_white + Georgian @ 1.335535
15 Icelandic + German_North + Utahn_white + Georgian @ 1.338034
16 Norwegian + English_South + German_South + Georgian @ 1.349703
17 Lithuanian + Utahn_white + French + Georgian @ 1.355967
18 Lithuanian + Scottish_West + Italian_North + Georgian @ 1.360463
19 Norwegian + English_South + Utahn_white + Georgian @ 1.361332
20 German_North + German_North + English_South + Georgian @ 1.368122