Do I look Ulster Irish or Scottish ?

[Enflamme]

You don't look particularly like either to me. You look like an American with mixed Euro ancestry. You've got an olive tone to your skin which would be unusual for both Ulster Scots and Scots.

Here's some men from Donegal (not Ulster Scots) but just across the border but still Ulster (in the Republic).




Here's some Scots



It's not so much the dark hair but the skin tone which makes me think you have some other European ancestry. What is your complete ancestry if you are happy to share?

It's a normal skin color. A very, very, very, very, very european skin color.


And according Coon, Atlanto-Med is find everywhere in Europe (North, Central, South) and North Africa (among berber without mixed with subsaharian or very little mixed).

[Enflamme]

You look Spanish actually.

"Spanish look" doesn't exist. You have a prejudice rather anchored in your brain, it seems.

You should reread Coon, he explains very well that the Atlanto-Mediterranean type is found almost everywhere in northern, central and southern Europe and North Africa among the less mixed Berbers.

And Atlantid, like "North Atlantid" or other fake type, doesn't exist, it's just a Atlanto-Med type with blues eyes or other "pigmentation".

Coon talk about that.

[Grace O'Malley]

You could pass for both, but don't look particularly typical for either. You look perhaps more "Catholic" than "Protestant" when it comes to NI.

As if there's a great difference in phenotype. There really isn't nor in genetics.

[Tooting Carmen]

"Spanish look" doesn't exist. You have a prejudice rather anchored in your brain, it seems.

You should reread Coon, he explains very well that the Atlanto-Mediterranean type is found almost everywhere in northern, central and southern Europe and North Africa among the less mixed Berbers.

And Atlantid, like "North Atlantid" or other fake type, doesn't exist, it's just a Atlanto-Med type with blues eyes or other "pigmentation".

Coon talk about that.

Atlanto-Meds do exist in Britain and Ireland, but the percentage is actually lower than some claim in anthrofora and certainly not like in Spain where it is possibly the predominant type.

[Enflamme]

As if there's a great difference in phenotype. There really isn't nor in genetics.

His skin color can be found anywhere in Europe, also among Alpine type (this type has an intermediate pigmentation).

[Enflamme]

Atlanto-Meds do exist in Britain and Ireland, but the percentage is actually lower than some claim in anthrofora and certainly not like in Spain where it is possibly the predominant type.

That's not what Coon says.

Coon says the Atlanto-Mediterranean type is found in northern Spain and northern Italy, France and other European countries (also in Balkans) and North Africa among unmixed Berber.

What you say is based on nothing at all, if not your prejudices.

The Atlanto-Mediterranean type is found everywhere.

You have no anthropological source to say otherwise.

[Enflamme]

Atlanto-Meds do exist in Britain and Ireland, but the percentage is actually lower than some claim in anthrofora and certainly not like in Spain where it is possibly the predominant type.

Moreover, your prejudices are based mainly on pigmentation (I know you enough to know that).

You should know that the alpine type has also (unlike mediterranean type, in this case "Atlanto-Med") an intermediate pigmentation, so it is found with a tanned skin color, brown hair and brown eyes.

[Enflamme]

Blue-eyed Atlanto-Mediterraneans


As was seen in the case of the Basque on Plate 23, there is a tendency in the tall, extremely long-headed Atlanto-Mediterranean race toward a combination of black or dark brown hair and blue eyes. The four men shown on this plate all possess this same pigment combination, all are 170 cm. or over in stature, have head lengths well over 200 mm., and form a unit in regard to general anthropometric and morphological position. All come from regions near the sea, and touched by Megalithic navigators.

FIG. 1 (3 views). A Sicilian from Messina. Aberrant in respect to an excessive mandible width, but otherwise typical.




FIG. 2 (3 views). A Spaniard from Vigo, northwestern Spain.





FIG. 3 (3 views). A black-haired Irishman from County Donegal. The Neolithic invaders of Ireland were apparently all or nearly all of this tall, sea-borne Mediterranean variety. This individual is aberrant in head breadth, but otherwise typical.




FIG. 4 (3 views). A Scotsman from Ayrshire. An excellent example of the British Long Barrow type and a direct Neolithic survival.



All have "Spanish look"? No, because this term does not mean anything; only people who are very ignorant use this term.

We must speak in terms of measurements and types, here it is an Atlanto-Mediterranean type with blue eyes, but having the same measurements as the Atlanto-Mediterranean type.

[Grace O'Malley]

His skin color can be found anywhere in Europe, also among Alpine type (this type has an intermediate pigmentation).

That's why I said he doesn't look full Ulster Irish or Scots. They are in the majority fair skinned. He most likely has ancestry from other European countries as do many Americans. Anyway I'd like anyone to be able to pick if someone is Ulster Irish or Scots. An interesting exercise would be someone like Gerry Adams. He's a Catholic Sinn Feiner but tell me his ethnicity?

[Loki]

As if there's a great difference in phenotype. There really isn't nor in genetics.

There isn't a great difference. But it's true that darker types are more commonly found among Catholics. That doesn't mean many Catholics are dark, though.