Do I look Ulster Irish or Scottish ?

[crazyladybutterfly]

you look like a british/irish gentleman maybe even french , but i cant say for which region you re the most typical

[Enflamme]

That's why I said he doesn't look full Ulster Irish or Scots. They are in the majority fair skinned. He most likely has ancestry from other European countries as do many Americans. Anyway I'd like anyone to be able to pick if someone is Ulster Irish or Scots. An interesting exercise would be someone like Gerry Adams. He's a Catholic Sinn Feiner but tell me his ethnicity?

I cannot guess the ethnic affiliation of people with the visual (or "classify"), at least in Europe it is more difficult.

The racial classification is made by means of a caliper; If you think that a person is Mediterranean to the visual but the stirrup reveals that it is, for example, "borreby", then you do not have to say that it remains "Mediterranean": only the measurements allow classify a person, not the visual.

A caliper is more reliable than the visual; Moreover, many people have an agenda and have preconceived ideas, so it is better to use a neutral object (a stirrup) to take your measurements and allow you to classify yourself (and also by entering your measurements on a site, Including this one http://dienekes.awardspace.com/calc/rac/)

[Grace O'Malley]

I cannot guess the ethnic affiliation of people with the visual (or "classify"), at least in Europe it is more difficult.

The racial classification is made by means of a caliper; If you think that a person is Mediterranean to the visual but the stirrup reveals that it is, for example, "borreby", then you do not have to say that it remains "Mediterranean": only the measurements allow classify a person, not the visual.

A caliper is more reliable than the visual; Moreover, many people have an agenda and have preconceived ideas, so it is better to use a neutral object (a stirrup) to take your measurements and allow you to classify yourself (and also by entering your measurements on a site, Including this one http://dienekes.awardspace.com/calc/rac/)

It wasn't specifically addressed to you but the clue is in the surname.

[Enflamme]

It wasn't specifically addressed to you but the clue is in the surname.

I do not know the typical family names in these areas... and you know, family names do not mean anything.

People inherit their father's surname, example : if a father is of origin, for example, Normand, that does not mean that his son fully shares his origin, because he's maybe have married an Irish woman or other.


Trop drôle les gens ici.

[Grace O'Malley]

I do not know the typical family names in these areas... and you know, family names do not mean anything.

People inherit their father's surname, example : if a father is of origin, for example, Normand, that does not mean that his son fully shares his origin, because he's maybe have married an Irish woman or other.


Trop drôle les gens ici.

This is in the context of the Catholic and Protestants in Ulster. Gerry Adams is a good example because he is a Catholic Nationalist but his family were originally planters. His family are MacAdams from Galloway.

http://www.chattanoogan.com/2013/6/1...tch-Irish.aspx

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Honestly, you guys are too focused on phenotype when phenotype is only a subgroup of genes from the bigger underlying genotype. It is partly my fault because I asked you to judge , at first, mostly on appearance. I did not want to taint your opinion with my DNA results until you had a chance to look at my phenotype first.

People from the British isles range in phenotype from North Germany to Southern France but no darker. You guys act like I am very dark skinned when compared to many southern Europeans I am significantly lighter.

This is my ancestryDNA results :



It says I am 52 percent 'Irish', 37 percent British, 6 percent Scandinavian and like 1% Finnish (many scots have low Finnish scores) and it says my genetic community is Ulster Irish.

I can post my eurogenes Eutest and unnofficial eurogenes k36 results. Eutest says I am basically like half Scottish and half Cornish or that is my closest analogue and the unnofficial k36 calculator says mostly Scottish and South Dutch or that is my closest analogue.

The reason why I asked whether I looked more Scottish or Ulster Irish is because different sources says one or the other. Also, someone said I look like I could pass in Glasgow and there are alot of dark Scottish types in the Glasgow region of the atlanto-med or whatnot type.

[blondbeast]

William Desaix DeBurgh is alive.

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I cannot guess the ethnic affiliation of people with the visual (or "classify"), at least in Europe it is more difficult.

The racial classification is made by means of a caliper; If you think that a person is Mediterranean to the visual but the stirrup reveals that it is, for example, "borreby", then you do not have to say that it remains "Mediterranean": only the measurements allow classify a person, not the visual.

A caliper is more reliable than the visual; Moreover, many people have an agenda and have preconceived ideas, so it is better to use a neutral object (a stirrup) to take your measurements and allow you to classify yourself (and also by entering your measurements on a site, Including this one http://dienekes.awardspace.com/calc/rac/)

Bonjour monsieur, comment allez-vous ? Voulez-vous parlez français avec moi ?

That is true but DNA is probably better than calipers. Plus how many people have cranial calipers just lying about ? I surely don't.

[Iloko]

I don't even know what 'Ulster' means lol

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It wasn't specifically addressed to you but the clue is in the surname.

My last name is Burke aka DeBurgh/DeBurca it is of Norman origin. The Normans were like half Germanic and half Celtic, like me, that is why they did not change the racial makeup of the British isles. It wasn't just because we are/were a tiny elite lording over the Saxons. That could be why some people think I look French. I think most British people look more Northern French and Dutch rather than German minus significant Alpine elements. If a French person does not have much alpine they might be able to pass in Britain but I'm not sure.