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Thread: Are northern Italians more ancestrally Gallic, Italic or Germanic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cybernautic View Post
    Are there any Levantine influences in Northern Italy?

    No trolling,just curious
    That would be profession of Sikeliot. If someone know that, its him. He has gedmatch from areas of Italy. He might have good idea about that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    My guess is most of their ancestry is from the pre-Roman Gaulish population.
    We don't have to guess.

    According to Emperor Nikephoros Phocas, in 968 A.D. has called all Northern Italians = Barbarians.

    He called them, Barbarian Franks, he accused them for deportations and slaughter of Italians.

    On the other hand he called Catalans = Italians.

    here is the brochure: grbs.library.duke.edu/article/download/11101/4231

    I doubt that modern historians are smarter than Nikephoros and others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Köstebek View Post
    That would be profession of Sikeliot. If someone know that, its him. He has gedmatch from areas of Italy. He might have good idea about that
    I doubt, he knows 0 about Italy...



    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    We don't have to guess.

    According to Emperor Nikephoros Phocas, in 968 A.D. has called all Northern Italians = Barbarians.

    He called them, Barbarian Franks, he accused them for deportations and slaughter of Italians.

    On the other hand he called Catalans = Italians.

    here is the brochure: grbs.library.duke.edu/article/download/11101/4231

    I doubt that modern historians are smarter than Nikephoros and others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cybernautic View Post
    Are there any Levantine influences in Northern Italy?

    No trolling,just curious
    What do you mean with Levantine? If ancient (EEF) yes, otherwise just a weak influence along the Adriatic coasts brought by Byzantines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sizzo View Post
    What do you mean with Levantine? If ancient (EEF) yes, otherwise just a weak influence along the Adriatic coasts brought by Byzantines.
    Whatever it is supposed to mean....

    I hear the word Levantine here so often that i wondered if there is anything like that in Northern Italy too or if it
    is only Southern Italians and Cypriots who have this honor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Köstebek View Post
    That would be profession of Sikeliot. If someone know that, its him. He has gedmatch from areas of Italy. He might have good idea about that
    Any Levantine DNA in northern Italy was brought there by migration from the south. So the answer is, for the most part, no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Any Levantine DNA in northern Italy was brought there by migration from the south. So the answer is, for the most part, no.
    Ancient or recent?
    Recent southern migration would be only relevant for Milan and Turin and some other industrial areas.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sizzo View Post
    What do you mean with Levantine? If ancient (EEF) yes, otherwise just a weak influence along the Adriatic coasts brought by Byzantines.
    Why would Byzantines bring Levantine ancestry? I don't get it. What are you referring to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Columella View Post
    Ancient or recent?
    Recent southern migration would be only relevant for Milan and Turin and some other industrial areas.


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    North Italians would not have any Levantine DNA, unless the person was not really a full northerner and had a Sicilian or Calabrese grandparent or something, then there will be a small amount of Levantine DNA.

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