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Dude just accept the Indo-Iranian theory, it's so obvious aha, please...Originally Posted by Fractal
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The oldest was actually found in Russia and so was it's father clade
23andme: 100% Balkan https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...3andme-results
MyOrigins 2.0: 100% Southeast Europe
Geneplaza K25: 100% Greek-Albanian
Eurogenes K36 oracle: 50.64% Albania_North+ 49.36% Kosovo. Population distance: 1) 1.27 Northern Albania&Kosovo
Ydna: J1-ZS241
Maternal Ydna: E-V13>CTS5856*
The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...
- Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.
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which one?
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R1a-Z93
23andme: 100% Balkan https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...3andme-results
MyOrigins 2.0: 100% Southeast Europe
Geneplaza K25: 100% Greek-Albanian
Eurogenes K36 oracle: 50.64% Albania_North+ 49.36% Kosovo. Population distance: 1) 1.27 Northern Albania&Kosovo
Ydna: J1-ZS241
Maternal Ydna: E-V13>CTS5856*
The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...
- Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.
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I wonder which subclades of R1a Volga Tatars, Chuvash and Mordvins have. The same as Belorussians and Ukrainians have or not?
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We don't have members here of this nationalities. Are there any results of them on the internet?
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I don't have their Y-DNA results. But I've found a study in Russian that says most belong to the European (Z282) subclade, except for Bashkirs.
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Chuvashes have only M558 and Z282.
Tatars of Tartarstan have high diversity of R1a. They have M558, Z2125, Z282, M458, Z93 and Z95 (in that order)
M558 is common (above 10%) in all those groups but low in some West Slavs like the Czechs. (And here in 'mainland' Greece around 7% of people have it which is fairly high and that percentage is comparable to some South Slavic groups like Serbians and Bulgarians)
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