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    Quote Originally Posted by Serbo Makeridov View Post
    Indo-Europeans were not swarty people with brown skin like Indians, they had pale skin and light hair/eyes.

    R1a-Z93 i not native in India, R1a-Z93 come to the India with Aryan expansion around 1500 BC.

    Native haplogroup in India is H, and that haplogroup in most dominant in India, also H haplogroup is most dominant among Gypsies, because they come from India.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneti...a#Haplogroup_H
    Indo-Europeans who invaded or migrated into India were also not blonde haired, blue eyed or looked anything like modern day Europeans including yourself. There is simply no evidence for this also it was a migration and not an invasion if it did happen.


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    Hello and welcome to the forum.Ignore the stinky indian above.Are you R1a?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Götz View Post
    In fact R1ussians are Hindu related - here proof:

    If there was any Slavic group Indians would be related to (which they are not) it would definitely be Russians and not some irrelevant Romanians, Serbs or Bosniaks LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fractal View Post
    Indo-Europeans who invaded or migrated into India were also not blonde haired, blue eyed or looked anything like modern day Europeans including yourself. There is simply no evidence for this also it was a migration and not an invasion if it did happen.

    Bullshit. Study on the SNPs of Indo-Europeans show that they were light in features and skin and their reconstructions look European. There is some evidence, the study on pre-Indo-Aryan India showed haplogroups like L and H showing up but not R1a-Z93 or any R1a gor that matter I wonder why....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serbo Makeridov View Post
    Scythians were holders of R1a-Z93, and they were blonde and red hair people, and Indians have black hair and brown skin.
    Read Anatole Klyosov about origin of R1a, that haplogroup is alien in India.
    Scythians were pure white people, Nordids + CM.

    False. Indo-Europeans were not blonde nordics at least not in majority. They were mixture of many phenotypes and many were mongoloid admixed as ancient genomes reveal.

    Yamnaya were black haired, brown-eyed and fair skinned in majority. Corded Ware were lighter.

    While you are right about origins of R1 from Siberia, this white-washing of Indo-Europeans is laughable, they were genetically different than modern Europeans and probably strange looking for modern standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    False. Indo-Europeans were not blonde nordics at least not in majority. They were mixture of many phenotypes and many were mongoloid admixed as ancient genomes reveal.

    Yamnaya were black haired, brown-eyed and fair skinned in majority. Corded Ware were lighter.

    While you are right about origins of R1 from Siberia, this white-washing of Indo-Europeans is laughable, they were genetically different than modern Europeans and probably strange looking for modern standards.
    You must be joking,put your hands on a book and stop spreading bullshit here.Almost all ancient indo-european populations were found to be 100% caucasian, and of nordoid anthropology.
    Most of the steppe was invaded by mongoloids, same as most of Middle East was invaded by arabsWhat was left of Indo-Europeans admixed with mongols,however those who invaded Europe were 100% europeans mostly blonde,blue eyed people as historical writings tell us about their look or even their own depictions.

    By the way, you don't look Nordid at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    False. Indo-Europeans were not blonde nordics at least not in majority. They were mixture of many phenotypes and many were mongoloid admixed as ancient genomes reveal.

    Yamnaya were black haired, brown-eyed and fair skinned in majority. Corded Ware were lighter.

    While you are right about origins of R1 from Siberia, this white-washing of Indo-Europeans is laughable, they were genetically different than modern Europeans and probably strange looking for modern standards.
    The ones who invaded Europe were definitely mongoloid admixed (Ancestral North Eurasians).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fractal View Post
    The ones who invaded Europe were definitely mongoloid admixed (Ancestral North Eurasians).
    Base of Indian people are Dravids... So Dravids are not even Indo-European and they dont have any relations with Slavs. Slavs are white people with brown or blond hair... totally different then Indian peoples. Only one thing relate Slavs and Old Indians (Not Dravids). That thing is Sanskrit. Many Slavic words can be founded in Sanskrit, but that language is dead now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lollipop View Post
    You must be joking,put your hands on a book and stop spreading bullshit here.Almost all ancient indo-european populations were found to be 100% caucasian, and of nordoid anthropology.
    Most of the steppe was invaded by mongoloids, same as most of Middle East was invaded by arabsWhat was left of Indo-Europeans admixed with mongols,however those who invaded Europe were 100% europeans mostly blonde,blue eyed people as historical writings tell us about their look or even their own depictions.

    By the way, you don't look Nordid at all.
    Lol, what a bunch of crap.
    We have many Schyntian genomes and some were almost Eurasians while others are more Eastern European. Yamnaya were swarthy people, don't care if it suits your ideas or not, their SNPs for pigmentation were tested. There were nordics, east baltids, pontids and Eurasians among PIE people.

    And yes, I look mainly nordic, not like those round-headed steppe folk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic View Post
    Base of Indian people are Dravids... So Dravids are not even Indo-European and they dont have any relations with Slavs. Slavs are white people with brown or blond hair... totally different then Indian peoples. Only one thing relate Slavs and Old Indians (Not Dravids). That thing is Sanskrit. Many Slavic words can be founded in Sanskrit, but that language is dead now...
    Slavs had no connection with Indo-Aryans, I agree. Indo-Aryans my ancestors originated in Northern India and spread westwards. This is known as the Out of India Theory.

    The base of India is not Dravids since the majority of the population speaks Indo-Aryan languages, Gujaratis, Hindi, Bengali, Marathi, etc

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