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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    Why are Corsicans so different from Sardinians?
    50% R1b.

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    Do Sicilians from different parts of the island

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    Albanians: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ncient-samples

    Early Slav RISE568 gets (when modeled as a mix of older populations:

    RISE568

    LBA_Sudovia_RISE598 67.65
    IA_EastGermanic_Mas5 25.70
    IA_EastGermanic_Kow25 3.65
    IA_EastGermanic_Kow45 0.55
    BA_Hungary_RISE254 0.25

    BA_Afanasievo_RISE509 0.20
    MN1_Latvia_Zvej26 0.20
    BA_Ireland_Rathlin1 0.15
    IA_EastGermanic_Kow55 0.15
    Malta_Siberia 0.15
    MEG_Iberia_I0407 0.15
    BA_Mezhovskaya_RISE525 0.10
    BA_Poltavka_I0440 0.10
    BA_Sintashta_RISE395 0.10
    BA_Srubnaya_I0232 0.10
    CA_Iberia_I1303 0.10
    EBA_Russia_RISE555 0.10
    IA_Altai_RISE600 0.10
    BA_Afanasievo_RISE510 0.05
    BA_Karasuk_RISE493 0.05
    BA_Okunevo_RISE516 0.05
    BA_Srubnaya_I0234 0.05
    CA_Iberia_I1280 0.05
    CWC_Germany_I0103 0.05
    IA_CelticBriton_HI1 0.05
    IA_Kazakhstan_Ze6 0.05
    IA_ScythianPazyryk_Be9 0.05
    LN1_Latvia_Zvej28 0.05

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    RISE568

    LBA_Sudovia_RISE598 69.75
    IA_EastGermanic_Mas5 29.50
    IA_EastGermanic_Kow25 0.75

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    But RISE568 is a low coverage sample (RISE569 is of much better quality):

    http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2017/0...m-bohemia.html
    Last edited by Peterski; 08-14-2017 at 03:20 PM.

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    After adding Anatolian Neolithic samples, Sardinians get:

    Italy_Sardinia

    EN_Iberia_I0410 39.55
    I0707_Anatolia_N 26.60
    CA_Iberia_I1314 15.45
    MEG_Iberia_I0408 4.65
    Bar8_Anatolia_N 4.25
    BA_Minoan_I0073 2.85
    MBA_Germany_RISE471 2.50
    Ancestral_North_African 1.75
    BA_Mycenaean_I9006 1.15
    CA_MarmaraSea_I1584 0.50
    I0708_Anatolia_N 0.35
    BA_Anatolia_I2499 0.15
    BA_Portugal_ERR1524174 0.10
    IA_Egypt_JK2888 0.10
    LN_Iran_I1671 0.05

    Restricted:

    EN_Iberia_I0410 35.15
    I0707_Anatolia_N 27.20
    CA_Iberia_I1314 19.70
    MEG_Iberia_I0408 4.55
    Bar8_Anatolia_N 4.30
    BA_Minoan_I0073 3.00
    MBA_Germany_RISE471 2.50
    Ancestral_North_African 1.80
    BA_Mycenaean_I9006 1.80

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightrider+ View Post
    50% R1b.
    Could be. I think they plot somewhat close to North Italy but don't quote me on that.

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    It looks like you are over fitting a lot. overfitting may not even improve the match that much, but im not sure.
    Last edited by Coolguy1; 08-14-2017 at 05:56 PM.

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    Lithuanians and Latvians, without using Early Medieval Slavic samples:

    Latvia (average):

    [1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
    HG_Latvia_HG3 BA_Hungary_RISE479 EBA_Cuiavia_PLN17
    22.11420 23.77245 24.84640
    N1_DnieprDonets_Vovnigi2 EBA_Russia_RISE555 LBA_Sudovia_RISE598
    25.05124 26.01686 26.23064
    HG_Ukraine_HG1 BA_Andronovo_RISE505
    28.10779 28.47618

    Mixed mode:

    [1] "distance%=3.904 / distance=0.03904"

    LBA_Sudovia_RISE598 44.25
    HG_Karelia_I0211 41.35
    BA_Hungary_RISE479 6.70
    BA_Sintashta_RISE395 4.90
    BB_Czechia_RISE567 1.15
    MN1_Latvia_Zvej26 0.75
    IA_Kazakhstan_Ze6 0.65
    IA_Hungary_IR1 0.20
    HG_Latvia_HG3 0.05

    Lithuania (average):

    [1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
    BA_Hungary_RISE479 LBA_Sudovia_RISE598 EBA_Cuiavia_PLN17
    22.15409 22.60709 25.14498
    HG_Latvia_HG3 N1_DnieprDonets_Vovnigi2 EBA_Russia_RISE555
    25.63834 26.17630 27.00970
    HG_Ukraine_HG1 BA_Hungary_BR1
    29.71291 29.78455

    Mixed mode:

    [1] "distance%=4.9784 / distance=0.049784"

    LBA_Sudovia_RISE598 55.15
    HG_Karelia_I0211 30.40
    BB_Czechia_RISE567 4.60
    HG_Latvia_HG3 3.95
    BA_Hungary_RISE371 3.30
    BA_Unetice_Germany_I0115 2.10
    BA_Afanasievo_RISE509 0.25
    BA_Hungary_RISE479 0.15
    MN1_Latvia_Zvej26 0.10

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    Are you saying that Greeks are a mix od 250 races? I'm somewhat offended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mongrel View Post
    Are you saying that Greeks are a mix od 250 races? I'm somewhat offended.
    Nah, these calcularors, programs etc just give you whatever they have closest to you.

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