Iran Sending Warships to Atlantic Ocean Amid Massive New Military Buildup

[N1019]

Lol the Illuminati doesn't want regime change in Iran bevause the Mollahs are doing exactly what they were put there to do, which is to economically and socially destroy Iran and set them back 50 years from the glory days of Shahs reign and to act as a boogyman.

I have to say that my cynical mind always found this theory appealing, and I first heard it years ago. But ultimately, I think it's a creative form of wishful thinking from people who believe Iran is the exception to the rule. Everyone else who opposes the Anglo-Zionists is being cut down, but somehow, Iran won't be touched, just because the Anglo-American empire was involved in putting the mullahs in power. Boogymen like the mullahs with their fake revolution and ISIS can have their uses, but they don't last forever. The imperial powers are king makers and king breakers. They get rid of the same people they put in power when they feel like it.

The mullahs were backed in 1979 because they were seen as the least worst option compared to communists, which were unacceptable in the cold war, and the democratic/secular nationalists who were too much like the rogue Shah or Mossadegh. My suspicion is that they were not supposed to survive the Iran-Iraq War, and that both Iraq and Iran were meant to be pretty much destroyed by it, obviating the need for a major American war commitment against two problematic countries. Furthermore, at the time it was thought that Iran's oil production would soon go into steep decline leading to financial ruin for the country, followed by dangerous acts of desperation from the Shah/government in the 1980s/90s. They really thought it would be better to have the mullahs there when that happened rather than the Shah/Mossadegh types. Iraq has now been ruined, but Iran is still standing, for now.

No. The Illuminati or whatever doesn't even exist. It's the (((chosen ones))) that are controlling most western countries through proxy, and they demand war against Iran and it's allies for their beloved state of Israel to have total hegemony in the middle east. Pahlavi was a puppet placed by the Americans via CIA backed coup in the 1950's against the real Shah of Iran, but he was showing signs of rebellion against the Zionist west in his later years though.

The last Shah is a good example of how kings are made and broken. He was put there by the British after they removed his father in 1941. The British asserted their right to remove him later if necessary. When the nationalists tried to keep more Iranian oil wealth for themselves in the early 50s, the Shah was supported by the British and Americans. But by the mid 70s he started to go rogue and was dying of cancer. His time was up. The trouble is, there were no good replacements.

[zarzian]

No. The Illuminati or whatever doesn't even exist. It's the (((chosen ones))) that are controlling most western countries through proxy, and they demand war against Iran and it's allies for their beloved state of Israel to have total hegemony in the middle east. Pahlavi was a puppet placed by the Americans via CIA backed coup in the 1950's against the real Shah of Iran, but he was showing signs of rebellion against the Zionist west in his later years though.

Im kind of saying Illuminati tongue in cheek but countless (Mostly Jewish) banking dynasties , European Royals and American Families do run the world though they most likely don't refer to themselves as the Illuminati. And to assume that the world is ran exclusively by the Jews who are pushing a Jewish Agenda is simply not the case, if it was the case then they wouldn't have sacrificed millions of Jews in WW2 just to establish Israel. Dont get me wrong, I do admit that many, if not the majority of the powerbrokers rulling the world have jewish ancestry but they ultimately serve Satan and not Yahweh and they could care less about the common jew. The Rothschields, for example, are Satanists first and Jewish second. Zionism is a right wing creation of the same elites which created the complete opposite communism and every other movement or political dogma.

I have to say that my cynical mind always found this theory appealing, and I first heard it years ago. But ultimately, I think it's a creative form of wishful thinking from people who believe Iran is the exception to the rule. Everyone else who opposes the Anglo-Zionists is being cut down, but somehow, Iran won't be touched, just because the Anglo-American empire was involved in putting the mullahs in power. Boogymen like the mullahs with their fake revolution and ISIS can have their uses, but they don't last forever. The imperial powers are king makers and king breakers. They get rid of the same people they put in power when they feel like it.

The mullahs were backed in 1979 because they were seen as the least worst option compared to communists, which were unacceptable in the cold war, and the democratic/secular nationalists who were too much like the rogue Shah or Mossadegh. My suspicion is that they were not supposed to survive the Iran-Iraq War, and that both Iraq and Iran were meant to be pretty much destroyed by it, obviating the need for a major American war commitment against two problematic countries. Furthermore, at the time it was thought that Iran's oil production would soon go into steep decline leading to financial ruin for the country, followed by dangerous acts of desperation from the Shah/government in the 1980s/90s. They really thought it would be better to have the mullahs there when that happened rather than the Shah/Mossadegh types. Iraq has now been ruined, but Iran is still standing, for now.




The last Shah is a good example of how kings are made and broken. He was put there by the British after they removed his father in 1941. The British asserted their right to remove him later if necessary. When the nationalists tried to keep more Iranian oil wealth for themselves in the early 50s, the Shah was supported by the British and Americans. But by the mid 70s he started to go rogue and was dying of cancer. His time was up. The trouble is, there were no good replacements.

I 100% agree with you that as easy as they put anyone in power, they could and do just as easily destroy them. My point isn't that Iran is special and that it can never be invaded or the mollahs are untouchable by the west, infact given enough time, it probably will be invaded because thats the way the Western powerbrokers operate, Sadam Husein and Ghaddafi are perfect examples. But my point is that these war games and war of words are just for show, the US has no intention of regime change in Iran because it doesnt get them anything. Contrary to what you might hear as a reason for Iranian regime change being the oppening of the Iranian market to American goods, I say thats chump change and they dont need the few extra billions of dollars, instead they need Iran in power, atleast for the foreseeable future to push other bigger agendas.

[Egyptian]

the iranian fleet is old , very old except for 80 or 90s two kilo class submarines.

[Pahli]

the iranian fleet is old , very old except for 80 or 90s two kilo class submarines.

Yes, their fleet is utter shit now because they cannot buy any new ships, they have to build their own that is made from older technology.

[Kamal900]

Im kind of saying Illuminati tongue in cheek but countless (Mostly Jewish) banking dynasties , European Royals and American Families do run the world though they most likely don't refer to themselves as the Illuminati. And to assume that the world is ran exclusively by the Jews who are pushing a Jewish Agenda is simply not the case, if it was the case then they wouldn't have sacrificed millions of Jews in WW2 just to establish Israel. Dont get me wrong, I do admit that many, if not the majority of the powerbrokers rulling the world have jewish ancestry but they ultimately serve Satan and not Yahweh and they could care less about the common jew. The Rothschields, for example, are Satanists first and Jewish second. Zionism is a right wing creation of the same elites which created the complete opposite communism and every other movement or political dogma.





I 100% agree with you that as easy as they put anyone in power, they could and do just as easily destroy them. My point isn't that Iran is special and that it can never be invaded or the mollahs are untouchable by the west, infact given enough time, it probably will be invaded because thats the way the Western powerbrokers operate, Sadam Husein and Ghaddafi are perfect examples. But my point is that these war games and war of words are just for show, the US has no intention of regime change in Iran because it doesnt get them anything. Contrary to what you might hear as a reason for Iranian regime change being the oppening of the Iranian market to American goods, I say thats chump change and they dont need the few extra billions of dollars, instead they need Iran in power, atleast for the foreseeable future to push other bigger agendas.

Nobody's saying that every Jew is part of this conspiracy, and Jewish Americans were far more opposed to the war in Iraq than their White American counterparts. However, that doesn't mean that the elite that are ruling the western world aren't Zionist Jewry who they regard themselves as Israeli firsters which is true to their gentile pets as well. Bro, Communism wasn't an extreme egalitarian movement as we know today, and the ones that spread communism in the beginning of the 20th century were Jewish like Lazar Kegonovich, Trotsky AKA Lev Bronstein, Jacob Stverlov, Walach and many others.

[zarzian]

Nobody's saying that every Jew is part of this conspiracy, and Jewish Americans were far more opposed to the war in Iraq than their White American counterparts. However, that doesn't mean that the elite that are ruling the western world aren't Zionist Jewry who they regard themselves as Israeli firsters which is true to their gentile pets as well. Bro, Communism wasn't an extreme egalitarian movement as we know today, and the ones that spread communism in the beginning of the 20th century were Jewish like Lazar Kegonovich, Trotsky AKA Lev Bronstein, Jacob Stverlov, Walach and many others.

I'm fully aware that the revolutionary movement was started by mostly New York jews, but the point is that it wasn't to fulfill plans to promote Jewish interests.

[Babak]

Iran is basically a tool for the U.S to stay in power to say the least. Cant get anymore factual than that.

[N1019]

But my point is that these war games and war of words are just for show, the US has no intention of regime change in Iran because it doesnt get them anything.

Nothing at all? I'm not so sure about that, and you could have said the same thing about the other countries the US destroyed. You could have said destroying Iraq wouldn't get them anything, but they went ahead and did it anyway. Unfortunately, I think the US stands to gain more from the destruction of Iran than it could ever get from destroying Iraq.

Firstly, the US would be looking at unfettered access to Iranian oil and gas, which would only be sold in US dollars as opposed to a basket of competing currencies or even gold.

They would also be looking to keep Russia and China away from the Persian Gulf.

There's the nuclear programme, which I believe is a lesser reason.

Then, the US is always talking about Iran's "malign activities" - things it does outside its borders. I've thought about whether those malign activities are also Anglo-Zionist supported stunts, like a series of neverending false flags, but in the end I concluded they can't be. If they were stunts, I just can't see Iran ever pushing as far as it has. And look what happens when they push too far - they actually get attacked. Whenever a car with an Iranian officer goes anywhere near the Israeli border in Syria, the Israelis fire missiles at it. When Iran sends high ranking officers to Syria, almost all of them end up dead. When Iran mined the Persian Gulf and it damaged an American ship, the Americans launched Operation Praying Mantis leading to dozens of Iranian fatalities, a major loss of ships and oil platforms in one day. When the hostage crisis began, the Americans sent helicopters in on an ill-fated mission to rescue the hostages. The Americans pushed a war with Iraq that killed at least half a million Iranians. The downing of Iran Air 655 may have been deliberate, too, as a means of applying pressure to Iran to end the Iran-Iraq War when it had failed to achieve its objective. The Iranians have lost over a thousand men and probably even more foreign militiamen opposing the American axis in Syria. It just doesn't seem like an act to me.

It's pretty clear to me that the arguments in favour of destroying Iraq were weaker than the above reasons for taking out Iran.

Contrary to what you might hear as a reason for Iranian regime change being the oppening of the Iranian market to American goods, I say thats chump change and they dont need the few extra billions of dollars, instead they need Iran in power, atleast for the foreseeable future to push other bigger agendas.

No, I never thought it was about selling manufactured goods to Iranian consumers. As far as I'm concerned, the 80 million Iranian population is a problem for the Anglo-Americans, not a cash cow. The people are irrelevant to their needs, likely to get in the way and cause problems. It's what's beneath the soil and the Persian Gulf that counts, because the global economy is dependent on it. That's why American businesses by and large are content to stay out of Iran. Looking at the banks, the nuclear sanctions are lifted, but they are still very reluctant to do business in Iran. They have risk assessment departments aimed at protecting their bottom line, which have advised against it. Why? I wonder... it must be because they expect to lose their money somehow, perhaps by means of a squadron of B-52s.

What are those even bigger agendas the US needs Iran to remain intact for?

[Loki]

This news report states this as if it is something significant. It isn't. $500 million? Well... the US military budget is more than a thousand times that amount. Yes, I didn't make a typo.

[N1019]

This news report states this as if it is something significant. It isn't. $500 million? Well... the US military budget is more than a thousand times that amount. Yes, I didn't make a typo.

When the enemy boosts its military, it always rates a mention, even if that enemy is far smaller and weaker.