Do Greeks look similar to Turks?

[brennus dux gallorum]

It's somewhat more complicated. There were definitely Greek settlements further inland Anatolia. Even in Eastern Anatolia. And especially in the West of Anatolia there was a movement of peoples. If you compare the autosomal DNA of modern Greeks and Mycenaeans, you'll notice that some Greeks also plot somewhat more East compared to the Bronze Age proto-Greeks of the mainland. This is probably due to the fact that there was no deviding line between Anatolia and Greece during Byzantine Empire.

Also consider the fact that aside from the mobility of the Greeks, Western Anatolia was also settled by other Balkanic people which are similar to the Greeks. The Phrygians were from Northern Greece and were kicked out by the Macedonian tribes descending from the mountains. Also the Dardanians were said to be from Thrace originally. The ancient Thracians also seem to fall within the Greek cluster. So a lot of Greek and Greek-like input in Anatolia.

There was no Greek settlement in inland anatolia, and modern "Greek central anatolia" sample scores as close to Greeks of Greeks as armenians do, which means that no, people who lived there were not racially close to Greeks

Phrygians were not "balkanic people", nor Greeks were. There were some linguistic relations between the two people, but as it seems not a genetic/racial one

[brennus dux gallorum]

It's somewhat more complicated. There were definitely Greek settlements further inland Anatolia. Even in Eastern Anatolia. And especially in the West of Anatolia there was a movement of peoples. If you compare the autosomal DNA of modern Greeks and Mycenaeans, you'll notice that some Greeks also plot somewhat more East compared to the Bronze Age proto-Greeks of the mainland. This is probably due to the fact that there was no deviding line between Anatolia and Greece during Byzantine Empire.

Also consider the fact that aside from the mobility of the Greeks, Western Anatolia was also settled by other Balkanic people which are similar to the Greeks. The Phrygians were from Northern Greece and were kicked out by the Macedonian tribes descending from the mountains. Also the Dardanians were said to be from Thrace originally. The ancient Thracians also seem to fall within the Greek cluster. So a lot of Greek and Greek-like input in Anatolia.

Totally wrong. Neither there was any settlement from Greek mainland to inland anatolia, nor there is any genetic connection between Greeks proper of mainland and the "Greek central anatolia" sample.

Phrygians were not "balkanic people" (Neither Greeks were) and even if they were linguistically related to ancient Greeks, that does not bring their modern descendants closer to, at least modern Greeks

This of course doesnt make them ethnically non-Greeks

[Crn Volk]

Yes they do

[brennus dux gallorum]

Yes they do

Says the slavobulgar anthropology specialist who more likely (and unlike the majority of Greeks) is hyperbrachycephal, just like the majority of Turks:

[Kross]

Says the slavobulgar anthropology specialist who more likely (and unlike the majority of Greeks) is hyperbrachycephal, just like the majority of Turks:

Turks are Central Asians not Alpine. Alpinid phenotype has large eyes unlike Turks that have Chinese eyes.

[userade]

Totally wrong. Neither there was any settlement from Greek mainland to inland anatolia, nor there is any genetic connection between Greeks proper of mainland and the "Greek central anatolia" sample.

It looks like the Greek_Central_Anatolia is closer to the ancient Greek than your Thessalian ass.

Distance to: GRC_Mycenaean
0.05100425 Greek_Kos
0.05223553 Greek_Dodecanese
0.05509976 Greek_Crete
0.05592299 Greek_Izmir
0.05916259 Greek_Laconia
0.06417624 Greek_Peloponnese
0.06516684 Cypriot
0.07008565 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.07037674 Greek_Thessaly
0.07598938 Greek_Cappadocia
0.07658673 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.07719764 Greek_Macedonia
0.10044894 Greek_Trabzon


Also, I see all the islands being very close to ancient Greeks, even though they are called the West Asian Greeks, compared to Slavo-Vlach Balkaners who LARP as "Mainland Greeks Proper".

[Corporate_Demolisher]

Turks are short, stocky people. They're a mix of Turkmenistanis, Azerbaijanis, islamized Khazars, Iranians, Islamized Anatolians and Islamized Balkaners

Agreed, I even read a report that said there were around 5 million individuals of Albanian (AKA Illyrian) descent living in Turkey. They are an EXTREMELY mixed people, although in linguistic origin they are more or less Central Asian/West Asian.

[Zeno]

No, we are not, ignoring all the pathetic and lifeless trolls out there.

[Hamilcar]

Greek users here tend to exaggerate as if modern anatolians were fully oghuz turks. From my experience they sometimes can look similar yes especially aegean greeks, I knew a couple from rhodes I first tought they were turks and I already mistook a half greek half southern italian for a turk too so it's not as if overlap was not possible.

[Corporate_Demolisher]

Skin tone wise yes, facial features no (albeit significant overlap exists due to mixing).