Do Greeks look similar to Turks?

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It could be the specific samples of south italians and Turks (more northwestern shifted Turks than real life Turkish average?? I dont know)

As for the latter, some make sense (Crete, kalymnos rhodes and cyclades seem as we always know them) meanwhile others do not: euboia next to thessaly (should plot south of it), patmos as north as north aegean and central Greece (should be nearly as southern as Rhodes sample), and one maniot result as north as thessaly? Let alone that its a tiny peninsula, how can it be so diverse that 5 different results would be so diasporic on thst pca?

Either way, even thessaly which is the most northern shifted Greek region never overlaps with slavs of fyrom

Euboea plots south of Thessaly on average that's just 1 sample. Some Peloponnesian might be right close to Thessalians but still on average they plot south:


On average they are more southern.

No group of Turks is actually that close to south Italians.

Maniotes cluster with the northmost Sicilians, Apulians and Abruzzes.

[MegaArgus1]

No such thing exists. Greece isnt a multicultural society its intercultural.

Greece is multicultural but you may not believe.

[Hapanuwa]

It could be the specific samples of south italians and Turks (more northwestern shifted Turks than real life Turkish average?? I dont know)

As for the latter, some make sense (Crete, kalymnos rhodes and cyclades seem as we always know them) meanwhile others do not: euboia next to thessaly (should plot south of it), patmos as north as north aegean and central Greece (should be nearly as southern as Rhodes sample), and one maniot result as north as thessaly? Let alone that its a tiny peninsula, how can it be so diverse that 5 different results would be so diasporic on thst pca?

Either way, even thessaly which is the most northern shifted Greek region never overlaps with slavs of fyrom

Yes some Turks, like me, can be pretty close to South Italians and Sicilians. I'm closer to Cretans, South Italians and Sicilians than to Armenians or Kurds for example. I also saw someone else from my region that had similar results so it is possible for some Turks to be pretty close.

[brennus dux gallorum]

Yes some Turks, like me, can be pretty close to South Italians and Sicilians. I'm closer to Cretans, South Italians and Sicilians than to Armenians or Kurds for example. I also saw someone else from my region that had similar results so it is possible for some Turks to be pretty close.

It could be that Turkish majority with the stereotypically "west asian" results represent the native anatolian/central asian hybrid bulk of the country, meanwhile those who score close to sicilians, south italians and cretans could be partially descendants of ancient Greek colonists on the coasts of anatolia. Which part of Turkey do you live in?

[Hapanuwa]

It could be that Turkish majority with the stereotypically "west asian" results represent the native anatolian/central asian hybrid bulk of the country, meanwhile those who score close to sicilians, south italians and cretans could be partially descendants of ancient Greek colonists on the coasts of anatolia. Which part of Turkey do you live in?

I'm originally from a village in Afyon Province in the Aegean region. So it's inlands and not close to the coast (appr. 4 hour distance from İzmir). Because I'm from inland Anatolia, I'm not sure about ancient Greek heritage because as far as I know outside of the colonies on the coast, the inland Anatolia only got Greek language and didn't mix with them. It should be said that often those with the most Central Asian results are from the Aegean.

[brennus dux gallorum]

I'm originally from a village in Afyon Province in the Aegean region. So it's inlands and not close to the coast (appr. 4 hour distance from İzmir). Because I'm from inland Anatolia, I'm not sure about ancient Greek heritage because as far as I know outside of the colonies on the coast, the inland Anatolia only got Greek language and didn't mix with them. It should be said that often those with the most Central Asian results are from the Aegean.

I know, mugla region is where central asian admixture peaks

[Dianatomia]

I'm originally from a village in Afyon Province in the Aegean region. So it's inlands and not close to the coast (appr. 4 hour distance from İzmir). Because I'm from inland Anatolia, I'm not sure about ancient Greek heritage because as far as I know outside of the colonies on the coast, the inland Anatolia only got Greek language and didn't mix with them. It should be said that often those with the most Central Asian results are from the Aegean.

It's somewhat more complicated. There were definitely Greek settlements further inland Anatolia. Even in Eastern Anatolia. And especially in the West of Anatolia there was a movement of peoples. If you compare the autosomal DNA of modern Greeks and Mycenaeans, you'll notice that some Greeks also plot somewhat more East compared to the Bronze Age proto-Greeks of the mainland. This is probably due to the fact that there was no deviding line between Anatolia and Greece during Byzantine Empire.

Also consider the fact that aside from the mobility of the Greeks, Western Anatolia was also settled by other Balkanic people which are similar to the Greeks. The Phrygians were from Northern Greece and were kicked out by the Macedonian tribes descending from the mountains. Also the Dardanians were said to be from Thrace originally. The ancient Thracians also seem to fall within the Greek cluster. So a lot of Greek and Greek-like input in Anatolia.

[Dianatomia]

I'm originally from a village in Afyon Province in the Aegean region. So it's inlands and not close to the coast (appr. 4 hour distance from İzmir). Because I'm from inland Anatolia, I'm not sure about ancient Greek heritage because as far as I know outside of the colonies on the coast, the inland Anatolia only got Greek language and didn't mix with them. It should be said that often those with the most Central Asian results are from the Aegean.

It's somewhat more complicated. There were definitely Greek settlements further inland Anatolia. Even in Eastern Anatolia. And especially in the West of Anatolia there was a movement of peoples. If you compare the autosomal DNA of modern Greeks and Mycenaeans, you'll notice that some Greeks also plot somewhat more East compared to the Bronze Age proto-Greeks of the mainland. This is probably due to the fact that there was no deviding line between Anatolia and Greece during Byzantine Empire.

Also consider the fact that aside from the mobility of the Greeks, Western Anatolia was also settled by other Balkanic people which are similar to the Greeks. The Phrygians were from Northern Greece and were kicked out by the Macedonian tribes descending from the mountains. Also the Dardanians were said to be from Thrace originally. The ancient Thracians also seem to fall within the Greek cluster. So a lot of Greek and Greek-like input in Anatolia.

[Fedora]

A Turk and a Greek, The Turk looks more Greek than the Greek XD

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A Turk and a Greek, The Turk looks more Greek than the Greek XD

100% lol