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    Literally all accounts of how actual "heathens" or just norse-mythologists behaved were written by christian settlers or priests that came to the "barbarians" in the north.
    You cannot deny that these testimonies about how "heathens" behaved are obviously only subjective and only portray the way the church saw "heathens" back in the days.

    Also, how does "heathenry" even make sense? Heathenry was not some kinda uniform religion of the scandinavians. Every little tribe must have had it's own spin of this "religion", because of the before mentioned lack of uniformity.
    This is even reflected by how many names "Odin/Wodan" has (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...s-Names-Titles).

    But still, this is a serious question, so I expect some serious answers, not just some shitstorm

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    ya know i have no any connection with Heathenry or modern Paganism -however you like to say- but well, i don't see anything religious in Heathenry, it's just like a belief for me. For example Shamanism was so close to Paganism, i see only difference is geographies anyway we had Shamanism as a belief but also had Tengrism as a religion, maybe Pagans also had it idk but only Heathenry doesn't seem like a religion to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luca View Post
    Literally all accounts of how actual "heathens" or just norse-mythologists behaved were written by christian settlers or priests that came to the "barbarians" in the north.
    You cannot deny that these testimonies about how "heathens" behaved are obviously only subjective and only portray the way the church saw "heathens" back in the days.

    Also, how does "heathenry" even make sense? Heathenry was not some kinda uniform religion of the scandinavians. Every little tribe must have had it's own spin of this "religion", because of the before mentioned lack of uniformity.
    This is even reflected by how many names "Odin/Wodan" has (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...s-Names-Titles).

    But still, this is a serious question, so I expect some serious answers, not just some shitstorm
    Despite local differences, all Germanic tribes' pantheons had major similarities. The reason why Wotan had several names is because the Norse, like other population groups, were fond of litanies as a poetic device; it is hardly different than a litany to a Hellenistic deity, the Blessed Virgin, or Christ. Are "Our Lady of Grace" and "Our Lady of Perpetual Help" distinct beings? The Norse also had several poetic names for particular weapons, men, kings, slaves, farm equipment, and ships, yet they are not referring to distinct instruments.

    Through Snorri's writings we can still construct a fairly comprehensive image of pre-Christian Norse and Germanic religious practices and society.


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    Heathenry is a meme religion, it's a pseudo religion, a grotesque abomination, they don't have a coherent Tradition or a priesthood or a coherent set of dogmas, revelations and practices.

    Many of them aren't even Theists but are Atheists.

    Nor would there be a compelling reason to adhere to it if it were an actually coherent religion.

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    I don't support any religious things.

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    Heathenry is our culture and religion of our glorious ancestors so give me reason why I shouldn't support it?

    I'm theist, because personally I had supernatural experiences. I saw in dreams things that happened after some time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aryan Stalker View Post
    Heathenry is our culture and religion of our glorious ancestors so give me reason why I shouldn't support it?

    I'm theist, because personally I had supernatural experiences. I saw in dreams things that happened after some time.

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    That is correct. I was a heathen for years. The only attempts to actually try and make it an organized religion is that of pecker woods in jail, and David Lane. Not to add that most of the people who write very heavily on Paganism, especially Germanic/Norse and Rodnovery are clearly insane/and or racist like Dmitry Kushnir and Stephen McNallen. As are as they are concerned, they are just making it up as they go.
    Plus how does it feel to have your Gods and pantheon trademarked by Marvel?
    and then you have your false pagans, worshiping no Gods, much like LaVayean Satanists. They are "Jungian Archetypes", or that "it was away for our ancestors to explain the natural occurrences in nature". This is obviously false because there is much recorded history of sacrifices to Gods across all Indo-European paganism.
    With that being said, I was a proto-Germanic Pagan who did blots every solstice and sumbels. I would read the likes of Paul Waggener, Varg Vikernes, and even Stephen McNallen. I considered joining the AFA for a while too, but I decided against it. Even in Wicca and Druidism, the difference between Covens and Orders is very, very diverse. The term "pagan" is more like a blanket term for a wide view of ancient traditions and cultures. Whereas "neo-pagan" and "heathenry" are very much a blanket term for a bunch of New Age religious movements under the guise of traditional European paganism.

    It is sad, yes. There is no more "real" Pagans left anywhere, then the ones following sanatana dharma in India and the Shintos. Yes, of course there is a hand full of tribes and such, but I mean generally speaking the folk traditions of many people historically has been lost. Much like the language of Latin, people do know Latin now, but it is a "dead" language... or even how traditional Vedic Hinduism (Indra, etcetra...) is a "dead" religion...

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    "heathenry" I guess it is not just about Norse or Germanic beliefs, it is all about Slavic, African, American or Asian too. Generally all polytheistic religions with roots in paleolith.

    The Norse beliefs are the most popular, I guess, because of many traditions that have survived the christianization and to present day and even spreaded globally.

    For instance, Saint Jón's night, or Christmas Eve, is based on Norse solstice holidays (it is even shifted from 21st or 22nd to 24th, because of the way Norse Pagans practiced large holidays over multiple days and the solstice was just the beginning of celebrations)

    Also, I don't know how many populations are there who never converted to Christianity. But, it is obvious that Christianity still influenced those populations in a bit. A good example is Iceland, where people separate "religion" from "cultural traditions". It is commonly known that the big majority of Christians in Iceland are animists - even though animism is not officially a belief of the Icelandic Lutheran Church, its members practice it. Well, some beliefs have even been scientifically confirmed and even turned into science (such as the investigation of Elven cultures through spiritist seances, an area of science founded my Magnús Skarphéiösson)

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    I support pre-Abrahamic religions in general since Abrahamism is the worst spiritual parasite a people can get infected with.

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