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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    you know better than me. you are a american. but maybe white nationalist americans are biased to prove their "purity" it does make sense that at least the colonial americans have a small amount. but its very small and old.
    That motivation is certainly there for WNs. Nonetheless, the stories are often ludicrous on their face. These people often claim a grandparent, great-grandparent, or 2x great-grandparent to have been Indian. My brother-in-law is one such person. But you look at his parents, and there's no way they have that much Amerindian. If they did, they wouldn't think they were white in the first place. Then there's the person from Iowa that claims to be a quarter Cherokee, although the Cherokees never came close to Iowa. It's these obvious and gross errors that make me dismiss these tales out of hand. And that's not to mention the antagonistic relations with the natives throughout history, the racial attitudes of the times, the scarcity of Indians in North America, and the English colonists' practice of bringing their families over with them, unlike the French and the Spanish.

    I've no doubt there are Americans with distant Amerindian blood. They're likely to be located primarily in the South and in Oklahoma. But I think the evidence points to their being a minority.

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    Most don't, but a decent amount do have small (miniscule) percentages. Decent not being anything significant at all, though.

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    Most are them are English, Dutch, or German. Some miniscule Native American or SSA admixture can be found in some rare individuals but most like to claim they are more mixed than they really are. There’s lots of mythology around being part Native in the US, for some reason.

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    A decent number of American Europeans have African or Native blood, but the vast majority are Euromutts usually some mix of English, Irish, German, Scottish and Italian.

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    Some Europeans with South Asian/Siberian admix from Chalcolithic or before time when mixed with Native American look more Indian
    Yfull [B]ID: YF83218 Medals -> https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...-the-Deep-dive
    G25 Distance: 1.0778%
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    3.6 VK2020_SWE_Gotland_VA:VK464

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    It's probably tiny in most instances, I have one friend who is of overwhelmingly of old-stock English ancestry from New England with mostly Winthrop Fleet and Mayflower descendants forming his lineage. He happens to have a single 3rd great-grandfather who migrated from Quebec to New England in the mid-nineteenth century, through him he has a Huron 10th great-grandmother, named "Marie-Olivier Sylvestre" or Manitouabewich" and lived from 1624 to 1665. She is the ancestor of a huge number of present day French Canadian and Franco-Americans with her descendants numbering in the millions. So they do have some native ancestry, and on his DNA test the native DNA did not even register.

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    White Americans (European Americans) on average are: 98.6 percent European, 0.19 percent African and 0.18 percent Native American. Inferred British/Irish ancestry is found in European Americans from all states at mean proportions of above 20%, and represents a majority of ancestry, above 50% mean proportion, in states such as Mississippi, Arkansas, and Tennessee. Scandinavian ancestry in European Americans is highly localized; most states show only trace mean proportions of Scandinavian ancestry, while it comprises a significant proportion, upwards of 10%, of ancestry in European Americans from Minnesota and the Dakotas.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Americans#Admixture

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    Some 23andme results from Reddit who scored non-Caucasoid admixture.



    (This one below has a father from New Jersey and mother from Kansas)





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    Interesting. This woman says that she has long roots in Pennsylvania which is north and scored 2% SSA. I thought it was only in the south where individuals with admixture could be found.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Östsvensk View Post
    Interesting. This woman says that she has long roots in Pennsylvania which is north and scored 2% SSA. I thought it was only in the south where individuals with admixture could be found.
    Depends on the individual. There were free blacks in the North, and interracial marriage has been legal in Pennsylvania since 1780, according to Wikipedia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti..._United_States). Musician Steven Tyler has similarly recent African ancestry via New York City, if I remember correctly. Of course, it would be even rarer than in the South.

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