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    Quote Originally Posted by Token View Post
    Those maps are shit made by amateurs. Here is one made by a professional anthropologist based on the compilation of dozens of pigmentation studies made by local anthropologists:

    The coloration in the Iberian Peninsula there is a certain correlation with the North African percentage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russki View Post
    Lundman was somewhat better at it.

    Pigmentation goes down from Estonia to Latvia, but he stretched it all the way down to Poland.

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    Soviet anthropologists found the same thing - Latvians notably darker than Estonians.

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    Lundman was one of the worse physical anthropologists ever so I will not trust him blindly, I need to see the sources he used to make this map. About the Soviet data, probably this is a compilation of studies based on different hair and eye color scales, which will inevitably cause distortions.

    Here is what Coon says about Estonians:

    The pigment character of the Esths is prevailingly blond, comparable to that of both Livs and Swedes; 56 per cent of the hair is called "fair," 43 per cent brown, and less than one per cent each are red and black. The eyes are blue in 25 per cent of cases, and gray in 51 per cent, while the brown class is said to include 13 per cent of the whole.

    Latvians:

    Pigmentation data on the Letts is abundant, and shows clearly that the Letts, as a group, are as blond as Swedes and Norwegians. The skin color, observed on the von Luschan chart, is uniformly fair, but rarely very vascular. The hair color is ash-blond in half the entire series, while the other half is more brown than golden blond. There seems to be very little black hair, and red totals less than one per cent. The distribution of hair color shows regional variations, of reversed concentric order, for the ash-blond hues are concentrated in the eastern half of the country, in the purest Lettish territory, while the western and coastal regions, occupied in earlier times by the enigmatic Kurs, is characterized by brown shades, especially on the golden side of the scale. The eye color of the Letts as a whole is predominantly light, with pure blues and grays totalling one-third, and predominantly light shades reaching between 57 per cent and 59 per cent; pure brown eyes are very rare, but dark-mixed eyes are not uncommon. On the whole, the hair color tends to be proportionately lighter than eve color.

    Coon's data on the Balts comes from German anthropologists using standardized scales for hair and eye color.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Token View Post
    Lundman was one of the worse physical anthropologists ever so I will not trust him blindly, I need to see the sources he used to make this map.

    I will try to dig it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defcon2 View Post
    The coloration in the Iberian Peninsula there is a certain correlation with the North African percentage.

    not so much, galicians (and asturians) are not as dark as shown on the map and the NA genes are quite old and in small numbers to influence the phenotype.

    This map may be professional, but it is very likely outdated, not following the current reality, Galicians isnt, obviously, darker than northern moroccans, its BS.

    NOTE: NA admixture in Basques? from muslims? Lel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    But baltics are not pure europeans 35-40% of baltics have siberian paternal origin (n1c):
    https://www.eupedia.com/europe/europ...logroups.shtml
    And where are origins of "Germanic" R1b...

    If we determined it by haplogroups, only group I would be real European. But actually most Europeans have R, N, J or even something more rare.

    I still ask why Estonians have the highest rate of light eyes / hair if you think that they are partly dark-eyed, dark-haired Mongoloids?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Decius View Post
    I always thought it was maybe Central and Northern Germans or Dutch
    The Irish, Scottish, Welsh, Belgians, Dutch, North-West Germans.

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    Basques are one of the most ancient Europeans.

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