What country is Genetically the purest European or "White"

[Enflamme]

If I were to simplify: Basques, Lithuanians, Sardinians, certain other peoples of the North, and so on.

[Lek]

Good one, whoever plots most westerly on european maps. Sardinians and basques.

They are genetically the oldest Europeans, pre-IE, And also some Lapps in Scandinavia. Sardinians have the least Steppe ancestry and mostly WHG+Neolithic, so genetically speaking they are the oldest Europeans overall. But maybe not the whitest as im quite sure that is a genetic mutation from the lack of vitamin D. in Europe, such a mutation would of frequently occured in Northern Europe more than South which is why Northern Euros are ''whiter'' but for sure not more European.

I don't know much about Basque genetics but I know they have the oldest European language and they have high r1b apparently which could aswell be pre-IE and totally different clade from the ones found in Indo European speakers.

[Dick]

They are genetically the oldest Europeans, pre-IE, And also some Lapps in Scandinavia. Sardinians have the least Steppe ancestry and mostly WHG+Neolithic, so genetically speaking they are the oldest Europeans overall. But maybe not the whitest as im quite sure that is a genetic mutation from the lack of vitamin D.

I don't know much about Basque genetics but I know they have the oldest European language and they have high r1b apparently which could aswell be pre-IE and totally different clade from the ones found in Indo European speakers.

I'd say you're correct anyway, the question is who is genetically the purest "European"

[Bosniensis]

Serbian professor Dr. Jovan Deretić says that before Germanic Migrations the only people who lived in Europe were Serbs (95%) and 5% were Greeks, so I would assume that
the correct answer to OP question would be: Bosnians.

[Peterski]

I just see Central or Northern Germans being the purest seems like they don't have non-European elements

http://polishgenes.blogspot.com/2014...rope-than.html

But in the Comments section, Davidski confirms that Northern Germans are very European too.

[Сербо Макеридов]

Genetically the purest European are the three Baltic nations,Latvia,Lithuania and Estonia.

No true, they have Uralid-Mongoloid influence, haplogroup N1c which is very common in Baltic countries is alien in Europe.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Irish people are purest

[Сербо Макеридов]

I vote for Norwegians.

[Pigling]

I always thought it was maybe Central and Northern Germans or Dutch

Historically speaking going few hundred years ago Dutch, Belgians, Polish, Danish, British & Irish were purest Europeans in sense of genetics.

Today due to colonialism and immigration Western Europeans every day being more and more mixed, so from today's perspective I can say that Serbo-Croats and Poles (West Slavs in general) can be considered to be purest Europeans in biological sense.

[Lek]

http://polishgenes.blogspot.com/2014...rope-than.html

But in the Comments section, Davidski confirms that Northern Germans are very European too.

The question is who is purest European and not oldest.. its like me arguing Albanians are purely neolithic therefor purest. Duh.

That blog is biased and nonsense as I read some of it. And even matching your DNA with only one sample doesnt mean much either.

Lithuanian is a indo european language as it gets and they were originally steppe people that were a mix of different populations like WHG, EHG, CHG, neolithic etc. We know they came outside Europe only 5000 years ago from the Caucasus and brought their language with them and where they probably mixed with indigenous Europeans like hunter gatherers and neolithics that had arrived earlier and that were probably mixed themselves anyway.



Lithuanians, polaks etc are far from being pure WHG. Same goes for rest of Northern Europe where steppe/ANE peaks. But steppe people already had some hunter gatherer components including when they arrived into Europe most likely through that youll probably match well some indigenous hunter gatherer populations in Europe alone. Your agenda is getting ridicilous as in another thread you were basically saying youre almost pure steppe and now trying to argue funny enough youre purely WHG Lmao.. that magically adopted an indo european language huh... the proto Ilyrian and indo european migrant that was found in Montenegro and that was similar to Lithuanians adds more to my point, it scored high hunter gatherer... indo europeans were not indigenous to Europe but either mixed a lot with hunter gatherer or had a lot of such components from before hand like whg, chg etc which they did which is why Steppe/ANE samples on gedmatch calcs get get a lot of WHG and CHG...

Hunter gatherers didnt just live in Europe or even originally. Many could of been descendant from eachother and related or totally unrelated. Same for Neolithic. Thats why names like CHG, WHG , EHG are fucking retarded. For all you know whg was descendant of some hunter gatherer population outside Europe that could of also been brought later by steppe migrations.

i know the question is who is purest European but your link is arguing that these indo european speakers whos language is as original IE as it gets are indigenous euros because they get high WHG... funny enough.. such components would of easily been brought by Steppe people as they were a mix of different populations.. i got plenty of steppe samples to prove my point that shows a lot of WHG and CHG. They even brought some Near Eastern.


He does mention Steppe peaking in Northerns but thinks funny enough there should be only 2, whg and neolithic and represents tge. Whg as indigenous and the neolithic as migrants and totally ignores the migrants after that that brought the modern European languages, and which he says himself peaks in Northern Euros and that show they had a lot of whg and chg.

WHG lived in Russia even, Neighboring ANE people easily absorbed them.


Ops question is fucking retarded anyway. What the fk defines even a pure European. Theres no such thing no matter how you twist it because Europeans are a mixture of different ancient populations that then again where again a mix of different people...

If we exclude this ancient mixture and by purest mean who has the least recent non european influence genetically then i dont see how some of the countries mentioned in this thread are purer than Albanians for example who barely even have any recent non euro admix or any more then other European populations. In fact, it would be easier to say whos the least genetically european.

Whiteness has absolutely nothing to do with it. It is a genetic mutation.