Why do Greek users deny that Sicilians/Aegean islanders differ from mainland Greeks?

[Sikeliot]

I don't dislike Sikeliot as a person or think he is a bad guy.
And he may be overall interested in Greeks and feel friendship/sympathy towards them.

But he does not always seem like a real friend and not everything he does is that friendly

Did you ever hear about the strategy divide and conquer..??

My goal is not to be a "friend" to anyone it is to reveal the truth, and the truth is you are in denial about the genetic and phenotypical differences between mainland Greeks and Sicilians, constantly grouping them together because you wish to erase your people's own NE European input (whether Slavic or Doric, who cares, Sicilians do not share it).

[Tauromachos]

It is not "divide and conquer", it is a genetic FACT that Sicilians are not close overall to mainland Greeks ,and that some of the islands are not particularly close to the mainland either.

Some..? ...perhabs...??



You always group Sicily and Aegean Islands together as if Sicilians where a part of the Aegean Islanders,only because they seem close to some of them
because they can be modelled that way.

You ,an American with Sicilian ancestry who is not fully native Sicilian ,have 0 claims on the Greek Islands!

I know exactly why you want to relate to the Aegean Islands,everyone wants to claim the Greek Islands as his own"even the Turks",because
the Islands are some of the most beautiful places on Earth and in Greece.
This is the real reason why you doing this,nothing else.

No before you give me thumbs down again,listen carefully to my words and my advise
If you want to relate to the Greek Islands go visit these ,make friends with the locals,learn greek and the local customs
respect the native people.
Perhabs you have luck and will marry a local woman and then you can have Siclian/Greek Island children,which have the luck to
grow up in this beautiful place,..nothing more than that.

[Sikeliot]

Some..? ...perhabs...??



You always group Sicily and Aegean Islands together as if Sicilians where a part of the Aegean Islanders,only because they seem close to some of them
because they are can modelled that way.

You an American with Sicilian ancestry who is not fully native Sicilian ,have 0 claims on the Greek Islands!

I know exactly why you want to relate to the Aegean Islands,everyone wants to claim the Greek Islands as his own"even the Turks",because
the Islands are some of the most beautiful places on Earth and in Greece.
This is the real reason why you doing this,nothing else.

No before you give me thumbs down again,listen carefully to my words and my advise
If you want to relate to the Greek Islands go visit these ,make friends with the locals,learn greek and the local customs
respect the native people.
Perhabs you have luck and will marry a local woman and then you can have Siclian/Greek Island children,which have the luck to
grow up in this beautiful place,..nothing more than that.

I don't care to BE a Greek islander. But genetically they are closer to Sicilians than to mainland Greeks, and vice versa, this is a fact. It has no bearing on my personal opinion on any group, it is simply a genetic fact that you deny with no tangible evidence.

Seriously, you've provided zero evidence for a single one of your claims. You realize you provided insufficient evidence to win in a high school debate team, let alone in a discussion on scientific fact? You would be laughed out of the room in any serious discussion because you have no evidence, only wishful thinking and insults.

[Tauromachos]

My goal is not to be a "friend" to anyone it is to reveal the truth, and the truth is you are in denial about the genetic and phenotypical differences between mainland Greeks and Sicilians, constantly grouping them together because you wish to erase your people's own NE European input (whether Slavic or Doric, who cares, Sicilians do not share it).

And from where do you know,where my ancestry is from and if i have this input?

[Sikeliot]

And from where do you know,where my ancestry is from and if i have this input?

I mean mainland Greeks have it, Sicilians not so stop grouping them together. People in Macedonia, Thessaly, Epirus not descended from Anatolian Greeks are often even closer to Bulgaria. I do not care if you think they look it or not, they have the northern input and this is a fact. Stop grouping yourself with either Aegean islanders OR Sicilians to evade this fact. It cannot be denied, it has been cited in studies and is clearly evident.

[Tauromachos]

I don't care to BE a Greek islander. But genetically they are closer to Sicilians than to mainland Greeks, and vice versa, this is a fact. It has no bearing on my personal opinion on any group, it is simply a genetic fact that you deny with no tangible evidence.

Seriously, you've provided zero evidence for a single one of your claims. You realize you provided insufficient evidence to win in a high school debate team, let alone in a discussion on scientific fact? You would be laughed out of the room in any serious discussion because you have no evidence, only wishful thinking and insults.

Disagreeing with you is not insulting.
You didn't provide real evidence for your claims neither

[Sikeliot]

Disagreeing with you is not insulting.
You didn't provide real evidence for your claims neither

Insulting me for being autistic is insulting me.

And here, this thread clearly refutes what you are saying:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?217724

[Tauromachos]

I mean mainland Greeks have it, Sicilians not so stop grouping them together. People in Macedonia, Thessaly, Epirus not descended from Anatolian Greeks are often even closer to Bulgaria. I do not care if you think they look it or not, they have the northern input and this is a fact. Stop grouping yourself with either Aegean islanders OR Sicilians to evade this fact. It cannot be denied, it has been cited in studies and is clearly evident.

I can group together whom i want to group together."as for Greek people"
You see 30% differences i see 70% similarities
Greek is what Greek says,for at least 2500 years,you won't change peoples identity and 2500 years of history with Gedmatch examples.

You group Sicilians,Jews and Island Greeks together.
I group different Greek people together...

You want others to respect you and your identity,first learn to respect other peoples identity..

[Sikeliot]

I can group together whom i want to group together.
You see 30% differences i see 70% similarities
Greek is what Greek says,for at least 2500 you won't change peoples identity and 2500 years of history with Gedmatch examples.

You group Sicilians,Jews and Island Greeks together.
I group different Greek people together...

You want others to respect you and your Identity,first learn to respect other peoples identity..

Of course I see the 30% differences because they are obvious.

I don't care whether you group Greeks together but stop grouping people with 30% Northeast Euro with Sicilians, who do not have such input. At least try to engage with the evidence that demonstrates why you are incorrect.

You deny the parts of us that are relevant when you group us with mainland Greeks also!

[Tauromachos]

Of course I see the 30% differences because they are obvious.

I don't care whether you group Greeks together but stop grouping people with 30% Northeast Euro with Sicilians, who do not have such input. At least try to engage with the evidence that demonstrates why you are incorrect.

You deny the parts of us that are relevant when you group us with mainland Greeks also!

Again you are lying and dishonest, i didn't group people with 30% North East Euro with Sicilians.