Genetically and phenotypically, are far southern Italians closer to northern Greeks or to Cyprus?

[Sikeliot]

cybernetic groups Sicilians in with people from of all places Thessaly and Epirus. Which makes no sense when those people shift 30% of the way to Russia.

Cypriots are more Levant shifted, but southern Italians have little Russian-like DNA, so that 30% makes a big difference.

[Voskos]

Cyprus.

[Tauromachos]

cybernetic groups Sicilians in with people from of all places Thessaly and Epirus. Which makes no sense when those people shift 30% of the way to Russia.

Cypriots are more Levant shifted, but southern Italians have little Russian-like DNA, so that 30% makes a big difference.

1)I never grouped Sicilians with Epirotes.

2)I never claimed they are closer to northern Greeks than to Cypriots.

3)I won't go into any debate with you anymore.
As we both agreed after our last argument.
4)My name is cybernautic not cybernetic,it shouldn't be difficult for you to spell it correctly.
I also spell your name like it is "Sikeliot" and not Sikelidiot

5)Open as much of this threads as you want i won't post anything more there,since i'm done with it and not interested in it afterall.

But please stay fair,stop trolling me with this if i don't post in your threads and don't refer my name in this threads.
Ok!
Thanx

[Myanthropologies]

Cyprus duh

[CommonSense]

Cypriots for sure

[Arborean]

I want to say intermediate because sometimes I get Southern Italian groups in single and mixed mode, whereas Cypriot is very far off in single mode. Sometimes I get it in mixed though.

[Tauromachos]

I want to say intermediate because sometimes I get Southern Italian groups in single and mixed mode, whereas Cypriot is very far off in single mode. Sometimes I get it in mixed though.

Makes more sense than the usual answers on the subject^

[Arborean]

Makes more sense than the usual answers on the subject^

Yea. I find Luasz Maps to be far more accurate. You can even see in the correlation values that for me Cyprus is only a 60 percent match whilst Apulia/Abruzzo is between 85-90. Maybe Gedmatch is different but I find Lukasz maps to be impeccable compared to that. Even Sicily is between 70-85.

[Lauχum]

From the Eurogenes Global 25 datasheet.

Sicilian_East:
"1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
Greek 4.298785
Albanian 4.719054
Cypriot 5.317600

Sicilian_West:
"1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
Greek 3.987338
Albanian 4.553195
Cypriot 6.258551

Italian_South:
"1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
Greek 3.681282
Albanian 4.355248
Cypriot 5.374903

All the far Southern Italian samples are closer to mainland Greeks than to Cypriots. I'm not 100% sure where these "Greek" samples come from but they are even closer to Albanians that Cypriots so I think its safe to say they're closer to pretty much all mainland Greeks.

[Arborean]

From the Eurogenes Global 25 datasheet.

Sicilian_East:
"1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
Greek 4.298785
Albanian 4.719054
Cypriot 5.317600

Sicilian_West:
"1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
Greek 3.987338
Albanian 4.553195
Cypriot 6.258551

Italian_South:
"1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
Greek 3.681282
Albanian 4.355248
Cypriot 5.374903

All the far Southern Italian samples are closer to mainland Greeks than to Cypriots. I'm not 100% sure where these "Greek" samples come from but they are even closer to Albanians that Cypriots so I think its safe to say they're closer to pretty much all mainland Greeks.

So they are as I suggested intermediates. As your post suggests, and my correlation values show(with South Italians/Sicilians running intermediary between Cypriot and Greek and Albanian references).