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    Quote Originally Posted by Countess View Post
    No, but I've been to other, even bigger pyramids. For example, the Alps.
    So you can claim absolutely that there is nothing even though you didn't go and check it by yourself... Again, you let other people think for yourself.



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    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...osnia-1_2.html

    Professional Outcry

    While he concedes that the notion of such colossal structures in the region defies accepted history, Osmanagic is adamant that the pyramids are real.

    But a pantheon of archaeologists disagrees.

    Prominent Bosnian archaeologists entered the scrum early on, denouncing the dig and lobbying to shut it down.

    Anthony Harding, president of the Czech Republic-based European Association of Archaeologists, has dismissed Osmanagic's ideas as "wacky" and "absurd."

    Garrett Fagan, of Pennsylvania State University in University Park, has slammed the project. He says that the dig will destroy bona fide archaeological sites in the area.

    He recently told the London Times newspaper: "It's as if someone were given permission to bulldoze Stonehenge to find secret chambers of lost ancient wisdom underneath."

    "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence," said Curtis Runnels, an archaeologist at Boston University in Massachusetts and a Balkan prehistory expert.

    He says the known Upper Paleolithic peoples in the region were lucky if they could build tents and fires. Monumental architecture on a scale not even seen in Egypt would be a cosmic leap forward.

    "It is not up to professional archaeologists to explain 200 years of research and evidence," Runnels said. "It is up to Mr. Osmanagic to prove his claims."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cool Story Bro View Post
    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...osnia-1_2.html

    Professional Outcry

    While he concedes that the notion of such colossal structures in the region defies accepted history, Osmanagic is adamant that the pyramids are real.

    But a pantheon of archaeologists disagrees.

    Prominent Bosnian archaeologists entered the scrum early on, denouncing the dig and lobbying to shut it down.

    Anthony Harding, president of the Czech Republic-based European Association of Archaeologists, has dismissed Osmanagic's ideas as "wacky" and "absurd."

    Garrett Fagan, of Pennsylvania State University in University Park, has slammed the project. He says that the dig will destroy bona fide archaeological sites in the area.

    He recently told the London Times newspaper: "It's as if someone were given permission to bulldoze Stonehenge to find secret chambers of lost ancient wisdom underneath."

    "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence," said Curtis Runnels, an archaeologist at Boston University in Massachusetts and a Balkan prehistory expert.

    He says the known Upper Paleolithic peoples in the region were lucky if they could build tents and fires. Monumental architecture on a scale not even seen in Egypt would be a cosmic leap forward.

    "It is not up to professional archaeologists to explain 200 years of research and evidence," Runnels said. "It is up to Mr. Osmanagic to prove his claims."
    He has proved much already. Also, he is respected in many countries, he has recently held a presentation on a university in USA. Meanwhile, at the site in Visoko, I personally met Americans, British, Dutch, Indians, ...
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    There is no such thing as a moderate Serb. Every Serb is a supporter of the Chetnik ideology to some degree. Some Serbs like Davai are openly chetniks, while others like rv12aval are cryptochetniks who hide behind Bratsvo I Jedinstvo and other such concepts. Yugoslav partisans believer in the chetnik ideology, but could not display it openly because otherwise they couldn't recruit naive Croats and Bosniaks, which were necessary for victory. We shouldn't make a difference between a Serb and a chetnik, the two are exactly the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Destroyer View Post
    He has proved much already. Also, he is respected in many countries, he has recently held a presentation on a university in USA. Meanwhile, at the site in Visoko, I personally met Americans, British, Dutch, Indians, ...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_pyramid_claims

    Scholarly response

    Osmanagić's claims have been repeatedly condemned by qualified scientists and archaeologists. Seven leading European archaeologists issued a European Association of Archaeologists Declaration stating:

    We, the undersigned professional archaeologists from all parts of Europe, wish to protest strongly at the continuing support by the Bosnian authorities for the so-called "pyramid" project being conducted on hills at and near Visoko. This scheme is a cruel hoax on an unsuspecting public and has no place in the world of genuine science. It is a waste of scarce resources that would be much better used in protecting the genuine archaeological heritage and is diverting attention from the pressing problems that are affecting professional archaeologists in Bosnia-Herzegovina on a daily basis.[8]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cool Story Bro View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_pyramid_claims

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    Osmanagić's claims have been repeatedly condemned by qualified scientists and archaeologists. Seven leading European archaeologists issued a European Association of Archaeologists Declaration stating:

    We, the undersigned professional archaeologists from all parts of Europe, wish to protest strongly at the continuing support by the Bosnian authorities for the so-called "pyramid" project being conducted on hills at and near Visoko. This scheme is a cruel hoax on an unsuspecting public and has no place in the world of genuine science. It is a waste of scarce resources that would be much better used in protecting the genuine archaeological heritage and is diverting attention from the pressing problems that are affecting professional archaeologists in Bosnia-Herzegovina on a daily basis.[8]
    You quote the anti-pyramid parts from wikipedia, yet when you read the site, there are also many scientists who support the claim.
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    There is no such thing as a moderate Serb. Every Serb is a supporter of the Chetnik ideology to some degree. Some Serbs like Davai are openly chetniks, while others like rv12aval are cryptochetniks who hide behind Bratsvo I Jedinstvo and other such concepts. Yugoslav partisans believer in the chetnik ideology, but could not display it openly because otherwise they couldn't recruit naive Croats and Bosniaks, which were necessary for victory. We shouldn't make a difference between a Serb and a chetnik, the two are exactly the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Destroyer View Post
    You quote the anti-pyramid parts from wikipedia, yet when you read the site, there are also many scientists who support the claim.
    The beginning part:

    The 'Bosnian pyramid complex' is a debunked pseudoarchaeological[1] notion which has been promoted by author and businessman Semir Osmanagić. He claims that a cluster of natural hills in central Bosnia and Herzegovina are the largest human-made ancient pyramids on Earth. Osmanagić opened excavations in 2006 which have since reshaped one of the hills, making it look like a stepped pyramid.[2][3]

    Direct study of the site by geologists, archeologists and other scientists have demonstrated that the hills are natural formations known as flatirons[4] and that there are no signs of human construction involved.[5][6][7] The European Association of Archaeologists has condemned the so-called 'Bosnian pyramids' as a "cruel hoax".[8] Many scholars have noted that the claims are used for serious ideological, political and economical gains in Bosnia.[9][4][10][11]

    Despite being completely disowned by the scientific community, Osmanagić was still pursuing his project in 2017.

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    Come on, even if there is an pyramid there, it is an Illyrian pyramid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cool Story Bro View Post
    The beginning part:

    The 'Bosnian pyramid complex' is a debunked pseudoarchaeological[1] notion which has been promoted by author and businessman Semir Osmanagić. He claims that a cluster of natural hills in central Bosnia and Herzegovina are the largest human-made ancient pyramids on Earth. Osmanagić opened excavations in 2006 which have since reshaped one of the hills, making it look like a stepped pyramid.[2][3]

    Direct study of the site by geologists, archeologists and other scientists have demonstrated that the hills are natural formations known as flatirons[4] and that there are no signs of human construction involved.[5][6][7] The European Association of Archaeologists has condemned the so-called 'Bosnian pyramids' as a "cruel hoax".[8] Many scholars have noted that the claims are used for serious ideological, political and economical gains in Bosnia.[9][4][10][11]

    Despite being completely disowned by the scientific community, Osmanagić was still pursuing his project in 2017.
    And how is wikipedia a reliable source anyway? There have been many extremely stupid things written on that site, and anyone can edit it.
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    There is no such thing as a moderate Serb. Every Serb is a supporter of the Chetnik ideology to some degree. Some Serbs like Davai are openly chetniks, while others like rv12aval are cryptochetniks who hide behind Bratsvo I Jedinstvo and other such concepts. Yugoslav partisans believer in the chetnik ideology, but could not display it openly because otherwise they couldn't recruit naive Croats and Bosniaks, which were necessary for victory. We shouldn't make a difference between a Serb and a chetnik, the two are exactly the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laberia View Post
    Come on, even if there is an pyramid there, it is an Illyrian pyramid.
    Yep, I know, thus it belongs to us.
    Quote Originally Posted by Szegedist View Post
    There is no such thing as a moderate Serb. Every Serb is a supporter of the Chetnik ideology to some degree. Some Serbs like Davai are openly chetniks, while others like rv12aval are cryptochetniks who hide behind Bratsvo I Jedinstvo and other such concepts. Yugoslav partisans believer in the chetnik ideology, but could not display it openly because otherwise they couldn't recruit naive Croats and Bosniaks, which were necessary for victory. We shouldn't make a difference between a Serb and a chetnik, the two are exactly the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Destroyer View Post
    Yep, I know, thus it belongs to us.
    Sure, you are from a specific Illyrian tribe from Ural Mountains called slavs.

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