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Thread: Egypt's Turkic dynasties era: Egypt's golden periods

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    Quote Originally Posted by gültekin View Post
    They were Ottomans rebels, not Egyptians. "Egyptians" were nothing more than peasants paying taxes to their Ottoman overlords. There is nothing "Egyptian" in the last 2000 years of Egypt's history.
    ahahahahahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by gültekin View Post
    I live in Turkey and what you say is UTTERLY bullshit. You are a fucking propaganda machine living on an internet forum and repeating the same shit over and over again.

    The Ottoman Empire is always praised in our education system (which was based on "Kemalism" until recently), the late Ottoman administration is another story. No one, not even Islamists favour the late period of the empire. Atatürk had nothing against the Seljuks you piece of shit. Stop pulling things out of your disgusting fat ass.
    Today it is praised but not under Ataturk's rule. Oh, so you deny that Ataturk himself tried to erase anything that links them to the Seljuks and the Ottomans? Gg, you should ask Petros to give you the references on what the man used to do back in the 20's and the early 30's whenever someone said something that is positive about the Ottomans back in the day. Again, the Seljuks were a Turko-Persianate empire, and Ataturk himself hated anything that links them to the middle east. So, please, stop bullshitting me that Kemalism see these Turkic empires that were heavily adopted the Middle Eastern cultures as normal since the fundamental ideas of Kemalism was to fully westernise Turkey by cleansing anything that links them to the oriental world, not the opposite. We got to hand it to Gezim and The Ghostface though since they follow Kemalism to the fullest rather than compromising the ideology as what people like you are doing here. Don't make me laugh.

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    Atatürk didnt erase anything about Seljuks and Ottomans. He succesfully erased anything that linked us to MENA culture. Even though criticized, time showed Atatürk was right. Especially after the current influxes from MENA to Turkey, people understand a lot better how Atatürk was right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McCree900 View Post
    Today it is praised but not under Ataturk's rule. Oh, so you deny that Ataturk himself tried to erase anything that links them to the Seljuks and the Ottomans? Gg, you should ask Petros to give you the references on what the man used to do back in the 20's and the early 30's whenever someone said something that is positive about the Ottomans back in the day. Again, the Seljuks were a Turko-Persianate empire, and Ataturk himself hated anything that links them to the middle east. So, please, stop bullshitting me that Kemalism see these Turkic empires that were heavily adopted the Middle Eastern cultures as normal since the fundamental ideas of Kemalism was to fully westernise Turkey by cleansing anything that links them to the oriental world, not the opposite. We got to hand it to Gezim and The Ghostface though since they follow Kemalism to the fullest rather than compromising the ideology as what people like you are doing here. Don't make me laugh.
    They did not erase anything, the only thing they erased was the Ottoman dynasty, which was nothing more than a British puppet at that time. The Seljuks are highly respected by everyone in Turkey. Our education system has been praising them (except for late Ottomans) from the beginning.

    Why the hell are you associating Ghostface (=Gizem) with Kemalism? He is not "Kemalist", not at all LOL. The only thing he cares about is lifestyle and shit, he represents a very small segment of Turkish population, true Kemalists are hardcore nationalists. You can't even tell random secular people (like Ghostface) and Kemalists apart.

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    lmao @Golden

    Egyptians were literally poor and ignorant until they got rid of the Afghan-like Turks

    it was France and his highness Napoleaon who made Egypt developed and modern

    they brought the printer with them

    Turks made sure to leave people in poverty and illiteracy so they don't revolt

    and the country came back to where it was under the Turks, thanks to the Islamization and scum brotherhood and Salafists

    Copts will rise up one day and clean that filth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egypt View Post
    lmao @Golden

    Egyptians were literally poor and ignorant until they got rid of the Afghan-like Turks

    it was France and his highness Napoleaon who made Egypt developed and modern

    they brought the printer with them

    Turks made sure to leave people in poverty and illiteracy so they don't revolt

    and the country came back to where it was under the Turks, thanks to the Islamization and scum brotherhood and Salafists

    Copts will rise up one day and clean that filth
    Egypt was better and more glorious under Turks (Tulunids, Mamluks of Bahri, Ottomans) than it was under Coptic old Pharoahs. Bahri Turks turned Egypt into a true power center and military giant during late 13th century neither Mongols nor Crusaders could face them.
    Last edited by Böri; 11-14-2017 at 09:39 PM.

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    lmfao are ya on drugs or somethung, STFU before you make fun of youself

    you didn't have an Alphabet even, you had to adopt the Arabs alphabet. . pathetic, you remind us of the sub Saharan niggers Taheee

    we have kicked your grandfathers azzes out of Egypt over a century before that actual fall of your savage Sultans

    you built nothing but ugly mosques that teach terrorism and if there any leader with balls today he would have demolished them with pride

    but it seems it will be only Copts who are going to claim this country back and certainly we will exterminate and slaughter until the last one of the brainless muzzies

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    Egyptian civilization was at its highest and most advanced during the construction of the pyramids. No one remembers Egypt civilization after it was conquered many times.

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    Mamlukes had little to do with Anatolian Turks lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppo900 View Post
    Lol, there's nothing golden about the Ottoman empire. The first two Turkic dynasties have nothing to do with Anatolian Turks since both of them are of Kipchack and pre-Anatolian Turkic origins, and they fought against Europeans rather than spit shine their shoes like your fellow Turks here do like Gezim and The Ghostface.
    Tulunids were not Qipchaq. Tulun was of Toquz Oghuz descent. Name and surname Tulun and Tulum are still common in northern Xinjiang.

    But one should bear in mind that Qipchaq/Kipchak is a collective image like Scythian, or Türk in medieval ages. Initially ethnonym Qipchaq denoted a distinct people but during medieval times started carrying a collective meaning like Türk or Scythian. Qipchaks in the east were distinct from the ones in the west and did not constitute a single people or entity. Same goes for Cumans, separate stock, different people.

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