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    Quote Originally Posted by Egyptian View Post
    lol whatever
    you give these people an inch, they take a mile...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wadaad View Post
    you give these people an inch, they take a mile...
    What do you mean by that?

    He denies history.

    Albanians were the creator of this state and the nobilty was albanian for a long time.


    There are thousands of citizens in Egypt of albanian blood just like there are in Syria .

    Don't speak bullshits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siyendi View Post
    Albanians and Egyptians seem to have special ties obviously. İt's understandable considering the close historical ties of both nations.



    Let's not forget that he took Egypt after some sort of betrayal, he was sent there as Turkey's ('Ottoman state, never officially existed as you know) military envoy and took over the land through abuse of power. Not to mention, Albanians didn't speak their weird (Ghega or Tosk) language, nor Arabic like the random folk of Egypt but Turkic in the palaces of Cairo and Alexandria, following the tradition implemented by Turkish Mamluks (Bahri line) in the 13th century.
    Mohammad Ali was a puppet of the Western powers. English allowed him to grow power there and when the time of Albanians came, the Brits took Egypt for themselves as expected.

    The only thing you are right about is that he turned Egypt to a state center, after Egypt was a mere province of Turkey led from Istanbul.
    Stop with the turkic bullshits because no one cares.

    There was no turkey back than, but the ottoman empire.

    Such thing as turk identity did not exist and the sultan himself was called Osmanli.

    Thank Sami Frasheri and ata turk for your identity today.

    You are delusional if you believe your words.

    Arabic was spoken in official meetings and albanian between the generals, rulers and nobilty.

    No one has ever heard of Bahri.

    Even the ottoman language was mostly Arabic and persian and was an albanian that reformed it in the early 20th century.

    Ottoman empire was a western puppet since they saved the ottoman empire twice from Albanians.

    Brits interned 45 years after t he death of muhammad Ali

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arjana View Post
    What do you mean by that?

    He denies history.

    Albanians were the creator of this state and the nobilty was albanian for a long time.


    There are thousands of citizens in Egypt of albanian blood just like there are in Syria .

    Don't speak bullshits.
    Mohammed Ali was a historical phenomon of the MIDDLE EAST that led back to the days when a group of people from Yathrib came to Mecca seeking a neutral arbitrator, judge and governer, having heard about the characteristics and integrity of the Prophet SAAW, asked if he could preside over them. No one in Yathrib (Medina today) would think, "Those Meccans are our superiors cuz we chose one of them to be our leader" that Eurocentric mindset is alien, and was ALIEN to Muhammad Ali PASHA

    Many cases of Muslims of moral magnanimity and leadership going to foreign lands to become leaders...nothing about Muhammad Ali is unique or just an Albanian thing.

    Even Ibn Batuta (who was like a Marco Polo of the Muslims) was a leader in many tropical islands.

    Even a Somali guy went to Maldives and brought Islam there and was a leader of that island:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abd_al-Aziz_of_Mogadishu

    This because the island was in a chaotic state and a foreign (neutral) leader was needed, to be a 'referee' for the different communities.

    This is just a Muslim phenomon


    As for Sudan...its shape is based on the Sennar + Funj and Darfur pre-colonial borders, Muhammad Ali just conquered it like he conquered parts of Arabia (but did not create any modern day nation there)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arjana View Post
    Stop with the turkic bullshits because no one cares.

    There was no turkey back than, but the ottoman empire.

    Such thing as turk identity did not exist and the sultan himself was called Osmanli.

    Thank Sami Frasheri and ata turk for your identity today.

    You are delusional if you believe your words.

    Arabic was spoken in official meetings and albanian between the generals, rulers and nobilty.

    No one has ever heard of Bahri.

    Even the ottoman language was mostly Arabic and persian and was an albanian that reformed it in the early 20th century.

    Ottoman empire was a western puppet since they saved the ottoman empire twice from Albanians.

    Brits interned 45 years after t he death of muhammad Ali
    Nah higher classes spoke Turkish (or Turkic if you prefer), no matter their ethnicity.

    Mohammad Ali's Cairo
    When the French departed Egypt in 1801, the Ottoman sultan appointed a new governor of Egypt, a man by the name of Muhammad Ali. Muhammad Ali is one of those mythical figures whose origins are now shrouded in mystery. He was born in a town in what is now northern Greece, from roughly the same area that Alexander the Great came from. He has been referred to as an Albanian, a Macedonian, and a Turk. His ethnic background is unimportant: he was a Muslim, and he spoke Turkish. He had first been to Egypt as part of the sultan's armies, and had been evacuated in advance of the French arrival. While in Constantinople, Muhammad Ali won the favor of the sultan, and won the appointment as governor.
    https://www.laits.utexas.edu/cairo/h...li/mohali.html

    'Ottoman empire/state, never ever officially existed. This is long discussion anyway, needs another thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wadaad View Post
    you give these people an inch, they take a mile...
    I just show them that Egypt is the core of the Islamic world, I mean can these kosovars celebrate their independence in algeria ? they will get lynched because Algeria is Serbia's friend, same with Syria etc.

    we're just being friendly but if anyone to cross his limits with us like some albanian members here or turks, we will hmmm,I think you no need to explain Bro : ))

    احنا هنحطهم علي الخازوق ههههه

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arjana View Post
    What do you mean by that?

    He denies history.

    Albanians were the creator of this state and the nobilty was albanian for a long time.


    There are thousands of citizens in Egypt of albanian blood just like there are in Syria .

    Don't speak bullshits.
    bla bla bla, there are no albanians here .. the dynasty of M.Ali is Macedonian.
    end of story

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siyendi View Post
    Nah higher classes spoke Turkish (or Turkic if you prefer), no matter their ethnicity.

    Mohammad Ali's Cairo
    When the French departed Egypt in 1801, the Ottoman sultan appointed a new governor of Egypt, a man by the name of Muhammad Ali. Muhammad Ali is one of those mythical figures whose origins are now shrouded in mystery. He was born in a town in what is now northern Greece, from roughly the same area that Alexander the Great came from. He has been referred to as an Albanian, a Macedonian, and a Turk. His ethnic background is unimportant: he was a Muslim, and he spoke Turkish. He had first been to Egypt as part of the sultan's armies, and had been evacuated in advance of the French arrival. While in Constantinople, Muhammad Ali won the favor of the sultan, and won the appointment as governor.
    https://www.laits.utexas.edu/cairo/h...li/mohali.html

    'Ottoman empire/state, never ever officially existed. This is long discussion anyway, needs another thread.
    turks language rofl

    turks are peasants here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arjana View Post
    Albanians actually found , not just modern state and nation of Egypt, but also modern state of Sudan.

    Muhammed Ali took Egypt with 5,000 Albanians in 1805 and 5 years later with the same Albanians he annihilated all Mamluks in Cairo.

    He took Sudan in 1819 with 6,000 Albanians led by his best albanian friend and General, Abeddin-al Arnaut.

    He took half of arabian peninsula in 1821 with armies led by his son , Ibrahim Pasha.

    Arabs were not allowed in the army till the reform of 1825 since some Albanians were rebellious and their number was low to allow the expansion of his empire.

    However he maintained order on his empire only with his Albanians.

    He later on took all Levant and by 1833 his empire stretched from south Sudan till southeastern turkey for 5 million Sq km.

    He had to withdraw his lands in levant and Saudi Arabia in 1843 from pressure from western Jewish powers which stopped him 2 times to conquer the Ottoman Empire.

    In his time , independent Albanian Pashas had created the first independent states in balkans and were ruling from Bosnia till peloponnese.

    Most people do not even know this. Muhammed Ali , Ali Pasha Tepelena and Bushati family in the north it was the great albanian trio that was ruling balkans and middle East.

    If it wasn't for albanians , Egypt would be part of Saudi Arabia today probably.
    That was some great reading, just one thing. Egypt would be east Morocco (East Mamlukistan or East Maghreb). Mamluks who were utterly destroyed by the albanians were themselves known to be exceptional fighters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egyptian View Post
    I just show them that Egypt is the core of the Islamic world, I mean can these kosovars celebrate their independence in algeria ? they will get lynched because Algeria is Serbia's friend, same with Syria etc.

    we're just being friendly but if anyone to cross his limits with us like some albanian members here or turks, we will hmmm,I think you no need to explain Bro : ))

    احنا هنحطهم علي الخازوق ههههه
    There is no denying that Albanians were the reason for your independence though. Whether Muhammad Ali was Albanian, Arabic, Turkish. w.e. The fact is he was born in northern Greece. Could have most likely been anything balkan or turkish. The fact you think you would stand chance in conflict with Albanians when you exist because of them is to boast a little beyond your station. Every Egyptian I have met has spoken highly of Albanians. You're probably some young kid. Muslim brotherhood killed your future anyways. Sadat was your only hope. Now you're a sad shithole third world like the rest of us/.

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