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Ugrofinian lingua franca...

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    Question Ugrofinian lingua franca...

    Which language is most important among Uralians?

    If someone would be interested in uralofinianics, and
    would be able to learn one language, which it should be?

    I think, it is probably finnish - it seems for me, to be the most
    characteristic, epic, and mostly associate with this branch of knowledge.

    Probably also Finnish science is the mostly interested in Ugrofinian topics...

    But maybe I am wrong.

    If there would be one ugrofinian "english-latin" - which one it would be in Uralic world??
    Which one is mostly important and representative?

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    Well Finnish is the most archaic Finno-Ugrian language and closest to original Proto-Uralic.

    I wouldn't recommend anyone learning any Finno-Ugric language. A rather useless skill in modern world. Rather learn Spanish, German, Chinese and maybe Russian or Arabic.

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    Ugrofinian for ugrofinians

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harkonnen View Post
    Well Finnish is the most archaic Finno-Ugrian language and closest to original Proto-Uralic.

    I wouldn't recommend anyone learning any Finno-Ugric language. A rather useless skill in modern world. Rather learn Spanish, German, Chinese and maybe Russian or Arabic.
    You say that to retain the emotional distance between Finnic raiders and the villages they pillage.

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    In historical terms Hungarian arguably overshadows any other Uralic language. Not only in terms of number of speakers, but also the early developing of high class literature and the vast amount of it until this very day. Plus it is the richest sounding out of them all, with the largest vocabulary. For purest Uralic language the Finnic branch is definitely the closest, and personally love the sound of Estonian and Finnish, but when it comes to the spread of the language (Hungarian is spoken in many countries outside Hungary in quite significant numbers), I think it is an easy choice to make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunai View Post
    In historical terms Hungarian arguably overshadows any other Uralic language. Not only in terms of number of speakers, but also the early developing of high class literature and the vast amount of it until this very day. Plus it is the richest sounding out of them all, with the largest vocabulary.
    Yes, but Idk if hungarian science is so focused on Uralics and uralian identity as
    Finnish is, the same with cultural vibe. I probably never met any ugrofinian vibe
    reading hungarian stuff, but when you read about finnish things, it is very common.

    And btw, in paralel thread you gave the info, that Hungrain has only 1/5 of Uralic vocabulary so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel Święckiewski View Post
    Yes, but Idk if hungarian science is so focused on Uralics and uralian identity as
    Finnish is, the same with cultural vibe. I probably never met any ugrofinian vibe
    reading hungarian stuff, but when you read about finnish things, it is very common.

    And btw, in paralel thread you gave the info, that Hungrain has only 1/5 of Uralic vocabulary so...
    And I specified even in my comment that if you want something closest to original than it has to be one of the Finnic languages (probably Finnish), but from practical and historical point of view Hungarian makes more sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunai View Post
    Hungarian makes more sense.
    Ok, and is more spread among uralic nations, more often
    taught among them, more reasearches are made in Hungary
    than in Finland about general uralics?

    Historical point of view does not convince me, becasue yet
    not so long ago, Hungarians were more identifying themsleves
    with Turks, than with Uralians, so, it is hard to belive...

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    I changed my mind - Udmurt l.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel Święckiewski View Post
    Ok, and is more spread among uralic nations, more often
    taught among them, more reasearches are made in Hungary
    than in Finland about general uralics?

    Historical point of view does not convince me, becasue yet
    not so long ago, Hungarians were more identifying themsleves
    with Turks, than with Uralians, so, it is hard to belive...
    Since Uralistics is a result of modern linguistic research of course that Hungarians couldn't identify as being Uralic before the 18th century. Not even Finnish or Udmurt people knew they were Uralics, not before Hungarian linguists made trips to the region and found striking similarities between Hungarian and these languages. First document yourself about the history of the Uralic linguistic family research.

    Sajnovics János in 1770 - ’Demonstratio. Idioma Ungarorum et Lapponum idem esse’
    Gyarmathy Sámuel in 1798 - Affinitas Lingvae Hvngaricae cvm lingvis Fennicae Originis grammatice demonstrata. Nec non Vocabvlaria dialectorvm Tataricarvm et Slavicarvm cvm Hvngarica comparata.'

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