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Thread: What explains the high prevalence of light, "continental" phenotypes in western Crete?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarknessWin View Post
    Varangian Guards from Byzantine times and Dorians from Ancient Times.
    This explain the Nordic phenotypes in the island
    Dorians where not Nordic Dude

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    Quote Originally Posted by epirot View Post

    For me, the Ionians were most advanced, that's why Iraklio and not Chania is the capital of Crete.

    IMO the most hard-core Cretans live in Iraklio, the center of agriculture and economy.
    Yes..,but Iraklio was not Ionian.
    Crete didn't have Ionians.
    Ionians where more on other Aegean Islands Samos,Cyclades.. in Asia Minor and some parts of the Mainland.

    Except of Dorians and Ionians there where also other tribes in Ancient Greece for example Aeolians.

    In the case of Crete there where also Minoans who never really disappeared from Crete.
    Most Cretans have mixed ancestry from the different groups that settled there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cybernautic View Post
    Dorians where not Nordic Dude
    Dorians had NorthEast Nordic phenotype in them too along with Pontid and other Med types

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarknessWin View Post
    Dorians had NorthEast Nordic phenotype in them too along with Pontid and other Med types
    Yes,possible

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    Dorians were more militant, austere and had kingdoms. Ioanians were the intellectuals that like fancy things.

    Crete is militant and austere in character would have heavy Dorian influences. Aegean Islands, Athens and people from West Anatolia are Ionian in subconsciousness.

    In other words Cretans can be self sufficient due to farming and exporting fresh produce but places like Athens and Aegean Islands would be screwed as they need to beautify to entice customers. West Anatolians are industrialists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cybernautic View Post
    Yes..,but Iraklio was not Ionian.
    Crete didn't have Ionians.
    Ionians where more on other Aegean Islands Samos,Cyclades.. in Asia Minor and some parts of the Mainland.

    Except of Dorians and Ionians there where also other tribes in Ancient Greece for example Aeolians.

    In the case of Crete there where also Minoans who never really disappeared from Crete.
    Most Cretans have mixed ancestry from the different groups that settled there.
    Might be that Iraklio is a mix between Dorians and Minoans, but then why the accent is more hard-core in Iraklio/Lasithi than Chania? I remember in Iraklio *EVERYBODY* spoke cretan. Hmmmmmm..... same way, today Serbians from Serbia might have more hard-core Slavic customs than e..g Croatians despite being more dark colored.... HMMM!!!


    Anyways, for me Rodos / Cyrpus = Ionian to the bone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by catgeorge View Post
    Dorians were more militant, austere and had kingdoms. Ioanians were the intellectuals that like fancy things.

    Crete is militant and austere in character would have heavy Dorian influences. Aegean Islands, Athens and people from West Anatolia are Ionian in subconsciousness.

    In other words Cretans can be self sufficient due to farming and exporting fresh produce but places like Athens and Aegean Islands would be screwed as they need to beautify to entice customers. West Anatolians are industrialists.
    Please leave the poor albanians of Attica outside of this. Enough with the lies. West Anatolians (West Easterners) is a fucking contradiction in terms.
    There has never been any ionian/dorian/etc... with freaking FOUSTANELA, for Christ's sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by epirot View Post
    Might be that Iraklio is a mix between Dorians and Minoans, but then why the accent is more hard-core in Iraklio/Lasithi than Chania? I remember in Iraklio *EVERYBODY* spoke cretan. Hmmmmmm.....


    Anyways, for me Rodos / Cyrpus = Ionian to the bone!
    Rhodes was Dorian in ancient times and i think their dialect still today is more
    close to ancient Doric.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doric_Hexapolis


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doric_...lonization.svg

    Cyprus was Achaean.
    Cypriots spoke the so called Arcado-Cypriot dialect which is an own dialect neither Dorian nor Ionian
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcadocypriot_Greek



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    Quote Originally Posted by epirot View Post
    Hmmmmmm..... same way, today Serbians from Serbia might have more hard-core Slavic customs than e..g Croatians despite being more dark colored.... HMMM!!!
    ?????????

    Despite??

    What has light or dark to do with customs or with accent??

    Did you smoke something...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cybernautic View Post
    Rhodes was Dorian in ancient times and i think their dialect still today is more
    close to ancient Doric.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doric_Hexapolis


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doric_...lonization.svg

    Cyprus was Achaean.
    Cypriots spoke the so called Arcado-Cypriot dialect which is an own dialect neither Dorian nor Ionian
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcadocypriot_Greek




    but today the similarity between Cypriot dialect is Rodos dialect is STRIKING! Especially if you go to Archangelos.

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