Could a mediterranean alliance be a solution to "MerkelReich"?

[Teatisfilius]

Neo-imperialist Germany and its European allies (e.g., Eastern Europe, Nordic countries, France) are destroying Southern Europe by imposing the free market, which will be a disaster for the weakest economies, and austerity, which has not been able to solve the problem of highest sovereign debts. Thanks to the euro the European peripheral countries cannot practice autonomously competitive devaluation or expansionary monetary policy, so Germany is now the second country in the world in terms of net export. German politicians influence public opinion by declaring that their problems are created by inferior peoples who “spend money in alcohol and women” (Dear Dijsselbloem, Italy is a net contributors to the EU budget and its alcohol consumption per capita is lower than that of Netherlands).

We should try to create a sort of mediterranean alliance (Portugal, Spain, Italy, Greece) against the German-dominated Europe, but unluckily this would be very difficult, also because Spain is dominated by Pro-Europeanism, Greece survives only thanks to European funds and Italy is controlled by a small group of nonelected politicians.

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[Albobalboa]

Honestly, I think the chances of that succeeding would be about 0.00001%. Without German structure and order there's nothing, what all those countries have in common is a lot more corruption and a lot less industry. Add to that they pretty much function due to EU-handouts at this point, without which they would collapse a long time ago (PIGS).

[Teatisfilius]

I don't critize European Union in order to hide our structural problems (corruption, Mafia, inefficient bureaucracy, etc.), but we must fight against a dictatorship composed by foreign politicians who want to transform my country into a poor colony of the New German Empire. It will be difficult and dangerous (especially for our banking system), but we must do it, because it's our only chance. After the Worl War II, we saw the Italian_economic_miracle, even if we had a lot of the same problems of the so-called PIGS countries.

[Loki]

You are correct when you talk about a "New German Empire", as today's Germany is becoming incredibly wealthy, and, together with China, is basically carrying the world economy. There is no chance for southern Europe to stand up to Germany and the EU, really. I think at this point, the most you can do is to make the best of a bad situation. Integrate more into the EU. What else is there? Don't become an enemy to Germany, that will be your end.

[Loki]

Of course, there is another option. And that is to get closer to Russia. And I'm not joking.

[Teatisfilius]

I don't want to be the enemy of Germany, but, if we accept to be colonised, in Italy there will be an economic and moral genocide. Our stupid and coward politicians have already tried to mediate with Germans, but they don't want to respect our interests. It is impossible to discuss with them, becuase, I think, it's their cultural peculiarity.

An alliance with Russia or China is a possible alternative, but we would be forced to abandon NATO and become the enemy of Usa and all the European countries. Will Usa accept to give their military bases to Putin?

[Loki]

I don't want to be the enemy of Germany, but, if we accept to be colonised, in Italy there will be an economic and moral genocide. Our stupid and coward politicians have already tried to mediate with Germans, but they don't want to respect our interests. It is impossible to discuss with them, becuase, I think, it's their cultural peculiarity.

I fully agree and understand you.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Honestly, I think the chances of that succeeding would be about 0.00001%. Without German structure and order there's nothing, what all those countries have in common is a lot more corruption and a lot less industry. Add to that they pretty much function due to EU-handouts at this point, without which they would collapse a long time ago (PIGS).

Italy and Spain have huge industry sectors. I think you're underestimating them.

[catgeorge]

Of course majority of South Europeans would support without a doubt.

Through the ages real leaders only came from South Europe providing its non beaurocratic and non democratic.

All it takes is one Med with balls to unite.

[Teatisfilius]

We will face the real problems in our financial systems, because the Credit rating agencies will punish us, there will be a bank run and the government bonds, which belong to our banks, will fall down.