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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandesha View Post
    that's awesome bro

    This is ancient Sanskrit , can you translate it "bri gal wa mama , bs krdy hun , mera naa v badnam keta wan tun naal e"
    give me some hints

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    but I think one thing everyone is forgetting is that the truly mongoloid aspect of kazakhs, and uzbekhs and such came in during the dark ages through to the early medieval ages
    It seems that this is a very delicate subject in general. Mongoloids are a very late admixture elsewhere. For example DNA tests from the Iron Age graves in Finland show that the Mongoloid N1c was absent even in East Finland. Instead, there were Viking farmers and other Aryan stock. ALL the ancient DNA research show the same thing, N1c was totally absent in Baltic and in Carelia from the Mesolithic to the Iron Age. Nowadays there is 80% Mongoloid Y-DNA in East Finland, and only Mongoloid Y-DNA, not any Mongoloid mtDNA. There were some invasions and the Great Wrath during the genetic bottleneck, rapes and pillage as usual. And the Iron Age Proto- Sami had LESS Mongoloid than Finns today, can you imagine? They censore the results in media, telling only something fuzzy about "Siberian genes" and "Siberian roots".

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    give me some hints
    it's a joke , its actually punjabi


    pure sanikirit used to be closely resemble slavic languages ,


    Lithuanian language is also similar to sanskrit. Comparison:

    Kas tvam asi? Asmi svapnas tava tamase nakte. Agniṃ dadau te śradi tada viśpatir devas tvam asi.

    Kas tu esi? Esmi sapnas tavo tamsioje naktyje. Ugnį daviau tau širdy, tada viešpatis dievas tu esi.

    First verse is in sanskrit, second one is in modern Lithuanian
    I don't ave any other branch then this account

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    Because Scythians intermixed with the early Slavs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandomGuy20 View Post
    Because Scythians intermixed with the early Slavs.
    Rather it was common EHG-like ancestry for eastern PIE.

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    It seems to me that people just do not represent real Scythians, but are judged by similar pictures.


    In the Triangle Turks-Scythians-Iranians there are exclusive (or almost exclusive) cultural similarities between Turks and Scythians, and nothing in common between reliable Iranians and Scythians.
    Here are just a small part of these similarities.
    1) Drink "Kumis" - sour mare's milk - it seems still to be an exclusive Turkic-Mongolian drink.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumis
    2) Scythian stella.
    Turks made Scythian-like stella until the late Middle Ages.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurgan_stelae
    3) Skull cups.
    There is a connection Scythians -> Huns -> Turks
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_cup
    This list can be continued and you can include another similar 15-20 points.
    Nothing to do with Iranian cultures and customs.
    It is a matter of time before a scientific bureaucracy specializing in history admits its mistakes.
    Last edited by Chelubey; 01-20-2020 at 02:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windy View Post
    It seems that this is a very delicate subject in general. Mongoloids are a very late admixture elsewhere. For example DNA tests from the Iron Age graves in Finland show that the Mongoloid N1c was absent even in East Finland. Instead, there were Viking farmers and other Aryan stock. ALL the ancient DNA research show the same thing, N1c was totally absent in Baltic and in Carelia from the Mesolithic to the Iron Age. Nowadays there is 80% Mongoloid Y-DNA in East Finland, and only Mongoloid Y-DNA, not any Mongoloid mtDNA. There were some invasions and the Great Wrath during the genetic bottleneck, rapes and pillage as usual. And the Iron Age Proto- Sami had LESS Mongoloid than Finns today, can you imagine? They censore the results in media, telling only something fuzzy about "Siberian genes" and "Siberian roots".
    N1c isn't Mongoloid and Vikings weren't around and that time nor Aryan, plus your whole hypothesis is bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chelubey View Post
    It seems to me that people just do not represent real Scythians, but are judged by similar pictures.


    In the Triangle Turks-Scythians-Iranians there are exclusive (or almost exclusive) cultural similarities between Turks and Scythians, and nothing in common between reliable Iranians and Scythians.
    Here are just a small part of these similarities.
    1) Drink "Kumis" - sour mare's milk - it seems still to be an exclusive Turkic-Mongolian drink.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumis
    2) Scythian stella.
    Turks made Scythian-like stella until the late Middle Ages.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurgan_stelae
    3) Skull cups.
    There is a connection Scythians -> Huns -> Turks
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_cup
    This list can be continued and you can include another similar 15-20 points.
    Nothing to do with Iranian cultures and customs.
    It is a matter of time before a scientific bureaucracy specializing in history admits its mistakes.
    and here are some real renderings of what scythians looked like made by scythians themselves. not by some swamp mutant wewuzzer in search of his fantasy identity.






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    Quote Originally Posted by aklifal View Post
    and here are some real renderings of what scythians looked like made by scythians themselves. not by some swamp mutant wewuzzer in search of his fantasy identity.





    That’s a Kushan head so obviously they had local south Asian mixtures which shows in their phenotype. The error is in lumping all scythians together. Western Scythians were clearly mostly Europoid their autosomal dna and physical remains prove this. Eastern scythians and central Asian ones were mixed with local Asians to high degrees. Not hard to understand.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aklifal View Post
    and here are some real renderings of what scythians looked like made by scythians themselves. not by some swamp mutant wewuzzer in search of his fantasy identity.
    I am not saying that the Sarmatian Mongoloidity is a Turkic marker. Of course, the Sarmatians were Turkic peoples. I just say that some Scythians and Sarmatians possibly looked very eastern. I saw the article by a Russian anthropologist about some Sarmatian burial in European part of Russia. There were individuals having even 30–50–90% of craniological Mongoloidity.
    Last edited by Chelubey; 06-06-2020 at 07:58 PM.

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