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    Default Do you believe in Zionism?

    Seriously who believes in it? Just wondering..

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    Quote Originally Posted by miLk View Post
    Seriously who believes in it? Just wondering..
    Zionism is jewish nationalism. Its not a question of belief, its there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trilecce View Post
    Zionism is jewish nationalism. Its not a question of belief, its there.
    Jews murder innocent Palestinian kids, its not a question either, but sometimes people believe Zionism is more in depth..

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    Quote Originally Posted by miLk View Post
    Jews murder innocent Palestinian kids, its not a question either, but sometimes people believe Zionism is more in depth..
    There are wealthy global businessmen and many very powerfull people who are Zionists (jewish nationalists), yes.

    I dont think their goal is to kill arab kids, their goal is to live in their ancestral land, Israel. Arabs have every possibility to live in peace with them, but they rather die than loose land to non-mualims. Especially a place like Al-Aqsa which is one of the most holy places in islam, if not THE holiest. Just so you know the importance of this place, muslims used to pray in the direction of Al-Aqsa, and not Mekka.

    However, jews have their historical right to this place. Arabs have to come to peace with this and accept to live with them, there is no other solution.

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    There is usually a confusion between Zionism and international Jewry, many neo-nazis and WN attack Zionism as if it were international Jewry and make both things out to be the same. Zionism is basically Israeli nationalism, international Jewry is the power of rootless cosmopolitan Jewry worldwide, and they are usually anti-zionists themselves, the mere existence of Israel represents a burden to these cosmopolitan Jews as it provides gentiles with the excuse to invite these cosmopolitan Jews to leave their countries and go back to Israel, and this is not the wish of the cosmopolitan Jew.

    As for Israel and the real Zionists, the official public policy of Zionism is to "care for the interests of Jews worldwide and to promote the return of the exodus to Israel". This is all bullshit and a front, in reality Zionism does not care about "all Jews", nor does it desire to see the return of all Jews to Israel but only of those Jews who are patriotic and or who can bring their investments to Israel. The return of too many unpatriotic Jews to Israel could quickly become a heavy burden for them in the same way that the alienated leftists in Europe, America or elsewhere are a burden for their respective nations. The Zionist Jew who understands Zionism for what it really is, and who has no delusions about it and has not bought into the PR propaganda, in reality despises the assimilationist cosmopolitan Jew. See: Israel’s War Against George Soros

    Here we see the historical contempt of Zionists for assimilationist Jews:

    "We can intervene on behalf of Jews in Germany if they bring their wealth to Palestine. The
    current immigrants don’t get that chance because they want to come empty-handed.’"
    "Therefore, they can’t offer anything to Yishuv (Israel’s name before it was recognized as an
    independent state in 1948) and we can’t expect anything else than what we have determined so
    far about most of the Jews of Germany: total estrangement from, even antagonism towards the
    territory of Israel, the absence of respect towards anything that is Jewish; a multitude of people
    with no connection to Zionism and who lost all sense of nationality."
    Roger Garaudy
    Last edited by Atlante; 08-25-2017 at 02:15 PM.

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    Believe in it or support it?

    Anyway what do you mean by Zionism? If it means a homeland for the Jewish people, then yes -- I support it.
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    Since there's no way to go back to the past, I believe in a mild version of Zionism. But Palestinians def. deserve a state of their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miLk View Post
    Jews murder innocent Palestinian kids, its not a question either, but sometimes people believe Zionism is more in depth..
    That hasn't got anything to do with Zionism. Those are crimes.
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